[1206] Water spells

[Mikiko]

So... What you're saying is... Conjurer should become Thaumaturge.... and Thaumaturge become Conjurer...

Considering everybody thought THM was going to be WHM before it was announced otherwise, I don't see why not. WHM on XI has Banish spells, and Scourge could fit that role a bit as well. Having the elemental magic split between two classes is silly, even with the action bar and the ability to set any spells and abilities you want.

[Aenarion]

Considering everybody thought THM was going to be WHM before it was announced otherwise, I don't see why not.

the 5 people that couldn't read the class description or notice the blatantly obvious shift of con -> healer does not constitute "everybody"

[AmyRae]

the 5 people that couldn't read the class description or notice the blatantly obvious shift of con -> healer does not constitute "everybody"

Yeah, the one that showed a conjurer in a black mage hat surrounded by all 6 elements. Totally screamed healer.

[Spellbinder]

Considering everybody thought THM was going to be WHM before it was announced otherwise, I don't see why not. WHM on XI has Banish spells, and Scourge could fit that role a bit as well. Having the elemental magic split between two classes is silly, even with the action bar and the ability to set any spells and abilities you want.

Then you'd also be asking them to completely destroy the lore of Conjurer as well. Remember, Conjurer is not White Mage.... White Mage is White Mage.

[Elexia]

Considering everybody thought THM was going to be WHM before it was announced otherwise, I don't see why not. WHM on XI has Banish spells, and Scourge could fit that role a bit as well. Having the elemental magic split between two classes is silly, even with the action bar and the ability to set any spells and abilities you want.

Hm, my main in FFXI is SCH, which I'm pretty sure we:

A. Get majority of White magic excluding certain specific ones to White Mage, which means it's being split between multiple jobs.
B. Red Mage gets white magic that neither jobs get, i.e EnSpells.
C. SCH gets Black Magic that Black Mages doesn't get, i.e Helicies.

Even older FF games they've split spells between jobs, it's not a silly concept, it's a typical concept, whether you like it or not is your personal feeling.

I know March of this year seems like a long time ago, but Japan suffered its worst tsunami in recent memory which resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands, entire towns swallowed whole, and an ongoing nuclear crisis at the Fukushima power plant.

Making light of tsunamis with Leviathan would probably be received in poor taste at this time.

It is, plenty of Animes are actually on hold because of their concepts that regarded this (One included a great flood as the backstory of the main character.) it's why they're even doing the Moogle fight first, to let time past, since even Titan was supposed to be up next or after Leviathan.

Second, do they not plan to implement Leviathan as a primal? Last time I checked, he was water-based. What are they going to do when they add him? Make him ice?? It's absurd.

Uh, pretty sure in FFXI Leviathan not only had water based attacks he also has a water based healing ability, therefore the lack of water nukes for players doesn't mean anything in regard to enemies.

Go figure that they may just be talking about players not having water based nukes....C`mon people..

Then you'd also be asking them to completely destroy the lore of Conjurer as well. Remember, Conjurer is not White Mage.... White Mage is White Mage.

Conjurer is not a black mage either. Conjurer was a Summoner who had summons linked to White and Black magic in a previous FF game, therefore they could have easily taken the class either way, guess which way they chose?

[Spellbinder]

Conjurer is not a black mage either. Conjurer was a Summoner who had summons linked to White and Black magic in a previous FF game, therefore they could have easily taken the class either way, guess which way they chose?

Yes, Conjurer leans in favor of White Mage, but Conjurer is still its own entity and deserves to still be a soloable class as a Conjurer as that is what the classes are still there for. As a mage in tune with the elements it still deserves to have some semblance of an elementalist. Leave it be with Aero and Stone, they've had enough butchering as it is.

[RikkCavalier]

Uh, pretty sure in FFXI Leviathan not only had water based attacks he also has a water based healing ability, therefore the lack of water nukes for players doesn't mean anything in regard to enemies.

Go figure that they may just be talking about players not having water based nukes....C`mon people..

So you think mob's having water based attack spells when player's DO NOT is somehow fair? And you somehow missed my point. That was my whole point, we should have water based damage spells for mobs with a weakness to water. If they implement Leviathan, or any mob that's water based (which they already have, crabs, water elementals, the list goes on etc), we should have water for mobs that are weak to water. THAT is fair.

I'll say it a third time so my point is clear ... lol... we should have water if they are water mobs in the game.

[Amador]

I strongly think they should revise what they're doing here. It's very simple what they have to do. They want to keep their original classes of White Mage, Black Mage, Red Mage, they need to show it. All of these adjustments and butchering of certain jobs is a really bad idea.

They need to improvise and work upon, not cut pieces out of ? job and ? job. They need to keep them what they are as far as their respective roles entail.

[Darkvalkyr]

The elemental wheel may very well stay the same but you just can't abuse it the same way.

In FFXI or XIV it's not like they make things significantly overpowered really, it just ups accuracy of your spells as far as I recall?