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    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Nanapie Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 28
    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    Add loot for everyone, problem solved.
    I honestly like this system, its one of the few things WoW does well is the whole personal loot system, and so it's not always garanteed loot add gil and tomes into the mix to RNG it up abit.
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    Riardon's Avatar
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    Leowald Chestwood
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    Twintania
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Reduce the roll timer down to 1min problem solved.
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    Reduce the roll timer down to 1min problem solved.
    Very bad idea. Sometimes people have long load times due to the cutscene after the final boss. Then some people may want to check if they actually need the item before they choose "Need".
    1min is much too short.
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    Atlaworks's Avatar
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    Faust Eisenhart
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 60
    You know what'd be a good fix for this?

    Be patient.

    I don't like them either, but the timer is like 3 minutes long. If you really feel strongly about it, find who waits until the last second to roll, write their name down, and say mean things about them to yourself. Because that's really all you can do if politely asking everyone to roll won't work. And it's not really causing major issues other than wasting a few minutes of your time.
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Just warn them that you, too, have Netflix and no time constraints. Even if you're bluffing.

    If that doesn't work, actually do find something to fill up the three minutes with, and include that time in what you've said aside for the duty, as sad as that might seem.
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Yep, when it happens to me I just turn to one of my other monitors and carry on. If you're gonna make me wait, I'm gonna fill my time so I'm still engaged. Though I like the idea that after a certain amount of time has passed you get an annoying beeping sound effect, but the trolls will only mute their sound so that they don't hear it. They probably listen to their own music as well so just have the entire game muted in Windows sound mixer.

    Oh and for the record, I have 3 monitors. I can watch something on YouTube while keeping Discord open for conversations while also keeping an eye on the game to see if they do roll. Trust me, you aren't getting past me that easily.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 11-08-2016 at 07:30 PM.
    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Andres_Lonegrief View Post
    This trend started back in 2.5 and is still happening. People clear the fight then don't roll, probably hoping people will leave out of frustration allowing them to obtain whatever loot they are after.
    It's mostly because people have a priority of things to get. That's nature with weekly lockouts.

    Assuming you're in A9 and want a bolt and would take a chain as booby prize.
    The loot is: pedal, pedal, chain, bolt.

    Now you would pass on the pedals and roll on the bolt first. If you hit a 90+, you sure won't roll on the chain before everyone else rolled on the bolt.
    Because if you roll on both you may end up with the chain, instead of a bolt just because everyone rolled/passed on the chain first.

    Now there's this other person who needs a chain and would take a bolt as booby prize...
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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    It's mostly because people have a priority of things to get. That's nature with weekly lockouts.
    Exactly. If I only need a shaft and there's only one up for rolls, there's a chance someone else in the party rolled on EVERYTHING and maybe rolled a 99 on the shaft. Since I didn't roll shaft yet, he/she may have won on another roll and canceled out the chance to win the shaft. I don't think this is bad manners or cheating the system, its just increasing your odds against people that don't care what loot they get. If EVERYONE was after the shaft, this wouldn't work.

    edit: I don't wait the 5 whole minutes because I'm impatient too. I probably wait 60 seconds or until everything that I passed on was checked off the list.
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    Last edited by Nora_of_Mira; 11-08-2016 at 09:59 PM.

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    Nazreen Eby
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Last week joined Alex NM runs but I had my loots already. It happened that I was semi afk around that time and I didn't realise everyone was still waiting on my roll until 3 min after the chests got opened D:
    I mean I couldn't roll anyway it should just auto-pass then if I am locked out from rolls >_>
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 95
    This is not the 1st time Roll Squatters was brought up. This was my solution on the previous thread about this

    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul View Post
    There is one solution. If they make it so if you take long to cast your lot, you lose your chance to roll high. Something like this:

    1st 30 seconds, you have access to roll 1 to 99, next 30 seconds you can only roll 1 to 89, next 30 seconds 1 to 79 and so on. By the time you get to the last 30 seconds of the 5 minutes, you can only roll 1 to 9. Perfect solution against roll squatters.
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