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  1. #51
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    You people do realize they already announced Skill Queues are coming back in 1.20 right? Your complaining about a problem that does not exist. If you can't run and press attack simultaneously maybe you should switch jobs..
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  2. #52
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    Katella Avenlea
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 100
    I'm constantly selecting what skill I want to do next, so my character rarely ever does an auto-attack punch. I would not like to have a ranged auto-attack personally, I like to pick and choose what skill I do, and don't want to accidentally punch that mob over there just because I'm in active mode. I think its fine how it is and am a little relieved that we won't be having a ranged auto-attack.
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  3. #53
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    Corrderio Arseid
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    You people do realize they already announced Skill Queues are coming back in 1.20 right? Your complaining about a problem that does not exist. If you can't run and press attack simultaneously maybe you should switch jobs..
    You're missing the point. The animation of Light Shot prevents you from moving, making Archer a worthless class to bring in any fight where you need to be ready to move in order to stay alive.
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  4. #54
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issachar View Post
    They did the right thing by making melee DDs the primary source of damage in a fight and making ARC more of a support role from afar. ARC was so overpowered for a long time, and I hope they keep with this mindset that it should do less than Lancers and Marauders.
    Yeah, next we'll be seeing MRD become a support class too and then LNC and then ...

    Giving ARC BRD is the worst decision Yoshi has made since taking over. Most archers want to do ranged DPS not sit casting buffs. Most support players don't want to play ranged DPS. Would be like giving MRD the WHM job, completely incompatible.

    ARC used to be my main battle class, now I will never play it again.

    Oh and not having auto attack on ARC is the second worst decision Yoshi has made since taking over.
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  5. #55
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    Davorok Byrmwilf
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    Several peeps keep saying, "..Archer is support now so DPS is gonna suck...", yet I have yet to see anything definitive that shows Archer Attacks/Abilities are being nerfed. (They are being altered but so is everyone's.)

    It seems to me that with the added Bard Abilities, esp. Bard Mag.3: Increases the physical and magic accuracy of all party members within range. and add to that the other Accuracy and Damage Bonus Abilities, Weapon Skills and Bonuses that Archer Damage will be just fine.

    You could argue that time spent casting spells or Bard Abilities is time spent not shooting arrows so overall DPS will be lower but I dunno about the rest of you but I already spend a lot of time using abilities and spells to enhance Damage Output and/or to mitigate Damage Taken.

    If you just absolutely hate the idea of being a Bard, ok, I get it but stop making assumptions about DPS till we get to try it out. We may just be pleasantly surprised. Personally, I am glad Archer is getting some Party Buffs and will be more useful than just DPS.
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  6. #56
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    Katella Avenlea
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 100
    I wouldn't worry too much, this isn't the end all. I wouldn't swear off the class just yet. Who knows, the next round of "jobs" added might see a more damage only job attached to archer, and you could pick up that one instead. Right now its 1:1, but I think I read somewhere they said more jobs will have the possibility of springing forth from the classes in the future. This game is a work in progress and no where near being done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    ARCs auto-attack will remain a swift punch in the face
    Hahaha, Bayohne is so awesome.
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  8. #58
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    Astraea Starsong
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    Alpha
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Yeah, next we'll be seeing MRD become a support class too and then LNC and then ...

    Giving ARC BRD is the worst decision Yoshi has made since taking over. Most archers want to do ranged DPS not sit casting buffs. Most support players don't want to play ranged DPS. Would be like giving MRD the WHM job, completely incompatible.

    ARC used to be my main battle class, now I will never play it again.

    Oh and not having auto attack on ARC is the second worst decision Yoshi has made since taking over.
    What job would you have proposed instead? RNG? Then you'd complain that it was "more of the same". ARC is not the same role as RNG, there is no Sidewinder in FFXIV, and the sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be. There's no valid argument in what you've said, and where else would you place the BRD class? GLA? PGL?

    "Giving ARC BRD is the worst decision Yoshi has made since taking over."

    Probably one of the best, actually, along with nerfing the horribly overpowered ARC while bringing importance to melee'ers.
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  9. #59
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    Sean Cody
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 16
    WHAT A BAD JOKE >.<
    For rlz. So disappointed, so disappointed
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    The animation of Light Shot prevents you from moving, making Archer a worthless class to bring in any fight where you need to be ready to move in order to stay alive.
    Have you played Lancer in the Ifrit fight? Doomspike has a long animation lock, much much longer than a light shot.
    Any class is viable in the fight, it's all a matter of the player learning to hold back on using that next action.
    The fight is about survival, not DPS zerging.
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