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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Really the only thing is Marauder does more damage, that's it. Gladiator can tank Ifrit with no issues.
    glad can actually do decent damage if they can manage to spam riotblade. still not as much as mrd but close. with materia would be better but all my materia is tanking materia.
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    Pandora Vainglory
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    glad can actually do decent damage if they can manage to spam riotblade. still not as much as mrd but close. with materia would be better but all my materia is tanking materia.
    Wasn't saying they couldn't. But no matter how many Riot Blades you spam, you're not gonna out-dps other classes.
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Wasn't saying they couldn't. But no matter how many Riot Blades you spam, you're not gonna out-dps other classes.
    except Archer in Ifrit lawls....poor archers
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    MRD is not the top tank of the game, it is prefered in some situations because of AoE and damage, they still take more damage then a GLD, come 1.20 and 1.21 GLD will get his AoEs as well as heals and on top of that have even higher defenses. I see glad quickly becoming the prefered tank until speed runs.
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    Mewt Naeun
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    Marauder Lv 100
    SE will never create an opponent more menacing or destructing than the FFXIV community's narrowmindedness.

    As a support class: we have the final say in what the tank will or won't be. I definitevly say that both mrd/war and gla/pld are good tank options. However their uses are distinctly situational:

    - As a mage/brd i will refuse to support a offensive tank in an endurance fight which results in uneeded mp consumption thus jeopardizing the probability of a winning outcome.

    - Likewise, if time is not an issue and the tactic is rather a fast kill being most beneficial: then i would support an offensive tank.

    Support classes know these things better than any. We will decide.

    Remember: you guys can speculate all you want due to boredom. Just dont forget: the whole game is once again going to change. All the little "elite tips n tricks" of yesterday may not mean anything post 1.21.

    Be prepared for tactical gameplay where spamming 1 wont cut it anymore. See you there
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    Drako Lombardi
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    Increases enmity of all enemies within range. Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
    Melee attack. Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
    I kinda like these abi, id love to have a really obvious visual que when I've blocked cause its kinda hard to tell atm.. Heck they could make a ridiculously loud "Clang" or "crash" noise and that would be ok with me. Audio or visual que is definitely needed to take full advantage of these abilities.
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    I kinda like these abi, id love to have a really obvious visual que when I've blocked cause its kinda hard to tell atm.. Heck they could make a ridiculously loud "Clang" or "crash" noise and that would be ok with me. Audio or visual que is definitely needed to take full advantage of these abilities.
    I've pointed this out in a few different threads and hopefully someone on the dev team takes notice of it. With the way things are changing around I don't know how Phalanx/Fracture/Haymaker will actually function now, (whether they require TP or not basically) but their icons on the hotbar should only light up after you've successfully blocked/parried/dodged an attack. (and if you have enough TP if that is still a requirement)
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    Deli Denkryst
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    Goldsmith Lv 70
    I don't think it's mrd > gld in tanking ability. It's just this whole game people in favor of DD than defense.
    However, if just looking at defensing skill and abilities, I don't think as dev themselves in favor of mrd.
    It's a fashion thing, such as jean style, people follow the others to make their choices. It's not really skinny jean looks nice. I personally like regular fit, so is pld as tank.
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Depends how much HP (if any) MRD looses by equipping WAR, also we have no idea what the traits are going to be, GLD probably gets the +10 enmity trait amongst other stuff.

    It's too early to tell how things will work.

    I was hoping WAR would be all out DPS. (dual weld axes can I have it)
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