ARC should not be a Bard

[JudgeN]

Bon appétit! You'll never be invited to a party as BRD "to do some good DPS". You will be invited to serve as the MP bitch.

Yoshi did good on ruining the only non-magical ranged DD class in the game.

This isn't FFXI were you need to cast 2 sings on the mages and the melee's, there is only 4 damn songs. Its 1/2 a second to cast ballad and your back to damage dealing. What in gods name are you complaining about?

[Yonnji]

This isn't FFXI were you need to cast 2 sings on the mages and the melee's, there is only 4 damn songs. Its 1/2 a second to cast ballad and your back to damage dealing. What in gods name are you complaining about?

Any of the new DD jobs outperforms BRD in dealing damage.

There is no reason to purposely invite BRD to a party as a DD, if one has a MNK, DRG, WAR, or another BLM available.

Your BRD will never be invited to a party for your Oh So Amazing "damage dealing". Your BRD will be invited to be an MP/HP bitch.

In view of all above mentioned, for those of us who keep hoping for SE to give us a pure ranged DD job, your silly excitement about BRD being still able "to do some good DPS" can only be perceived as either insult, or a stupidity.

[TocAmmanas]

Any of the new DD jobs outperforms BRD in dealing damage.

There is no reason to purposely invite BRD to a party as a DD, if one has a MNK, DRG, WAR, or another BLM available.

Your BRD will never be invited to a party for your Oh So Amazing "damage dealing". Your BRD will be invited to be an MP/HP bitch.

In view of all above mentioned, for those of us who keep hoping for SE to give us a pure ranged DD job, your silly excitement about BRD being still able "to do some good DPS" can only be perceived as either insult, or a stupidity.

Really?

Are you really this dense? or perhaps your reading comprehension is just off. Where does he state that BRD does the most DPS? Where does he state that BRD does 'Oh so amazing' damage? He states that even though they are designed to buff the party, they still do "pretty good DPS" (Which is a far cry from "oh so amazing")

His point was that BRD isn't just a ballad bitch. You can sing your songs (enhancing both mages and Melee), as well as do above average DPS. Unlike XI where you were stuck giving out songs the whole time and that was your sole role in the party. This is a hybrid class and if you thought BRD was just going to be a DD, well, i don't know what to tell you.

Just because you are butt-hurt that they didn't continue to make ARC OP and allowed other DD to catch up, or that they didn't expand upon the ranged DD class, don't use that as an excuse to misinterpret someones post and lash out. It just makes you look incompetent. I'm sure in the future they will look into giving a Job to pure ranged DD, but until then, you are stuck with ARC. Deal.

[Yonnji]

Really?

Are you really this dense? or perhaps your reading comprehension is just off. Where does he state that BRD does the most DPS? Where does he state that BRD does 'Oh so amazing' damage? He states that even though they are designed to buff the party, they still do "pretty good DPS" (Which is a far cry from "oh so amazing")

His point was that BRD isn't just a ballad bitch. You can sing your songs (enhancing both mages and Melee), as well as do above average DPS. Unlike XI where you were stuck giving out songs the whole time and that was your sole role in the party. This is a hybrid class and if you thought BRD was just going to be a DD, well, i don't know what to tell you.

Just because you are butt-hurt that they didn't continue to make ARC OP and allowed other DD to catch up, or that they didn't expand upon the ranged DD class, don't use that as an excuse to misinterpret someones post and lash out. It just makes you look incompetent. I'm sure in the future they will look into giving a Job to pure ranged DD, but until then, you are stuck with ARC. Deal.

"Lash out" would far more succinctly describe your own post. You are suffering from hysteria. Deal.

[JudgeN]

Any of the new DD jobs outperforms BRD in dealing damage.

There is no reason to purposely invite BRD to a party as a DD, if one has a MNK, DRG, WAR, or another BLM available.

Your BRD will never be invited to a party for your Oh So Amazing "damage dealing". Your BRD will be invited to be an MP/HP bitch.

In view of all above mentioned, for those of us who keep hoping for SE to give us a pure ranged DD job, your silly excitement about BRD being still able "to do some good DPS" can only be perceived as either insult, or a stupidity.

You do realize that archer got nerf and lost its top DD spot 2 patches ago? MRD AND LNC have been out DPS archer awhile now. So what you are actually upset about is that archer got nerfed and isn't the "TOP DD" anymore correct? Well I hate to tell you but range DD is never going to be a top DD again in this game for the obvious reason that its range gives the job an advantage.

So now looking at the this thread myself and other though bard would end up alot like FFXI bard but that isn't the case. Sure we don't do as much damage as the other DD but are damage is still very respectable while providing a added benefit to the entire party. Regardless they did a good job of combining a DD and a support, giving the best of both worlds. If people don't like it then stay archer, I can think of many reason when you might need alittle extra range DPS.

[Yonnji]

You do realize that archer got nerf and lost its top DD spot 2 patches ago? MRD AND LNC have been out DPS archer awhile now. So what you are actually upset about is that archer got nerfed and isn't the "TOP DD" anymore correct? Well I hate to tell you but range DD is never going to be a top DD again in this game for the obvious reason that its range gives the job an advantage.

So now looking at the this thread myself and other though bard would end up alot like FFXI bard but that isn't the case. Sure we don't do as much damage as the other DD but are damage is still very respectable while providing a added benefit to the entire party. Regardless they did a good job of combining a DD and a support, giving the best of both worlds. If people don't like it then stay archer, I can think of many reason when you might need alittle extra range DPS.

What I'm upset about is that every other DD class got a new DD job. And only ARC, a dedicated ranged DD class was saddled with a support job, instead of pure DD job.

If SE needed a new support job so much, they at least could've made it stemmed not from ARC, but from CNJ and THM combined in some manner.

It would've been much more logical. Instead of what we have now. WHM is required to become a part-time gladiator first, and BLM - a part-time pugilist? How sillier can you get? It has a feel of SE running out of options and simply starting forcefully fitting new stuff into the old leftovers.

[Coglin]

What I'm upset about is that every other DD class got a new DD job. And only ARC, a dedicated ranged DD class was saddled with a support job, instead of pure DD job.

If SE needed a new support job so much, they at least could've made it stemmed not from ARC, but from CNJ and THM combined in some manner.

It would've been much more logical. Instead of what we have now. WHM is required to become a part-time gladiator first, and BLM - a part-time pugilist? How sillier can you get? It has a feel of SE running out of options and simply starting forcefully fitting new stuff into the old leftovers.

Well instead of being trollerific here on the forums, go bash SE in the couple of 500 character sections of the poll. everything your menyioning here is just your opinion. One in which a great many disagree with.

[syntaxlies]

This isn't FFXI were you need to cast 2 sings on the mages and the melee's, there is only 4 damn songs. Its 1/2 a second to cast ballad and your back to damage dealing. What in gods name are you complaining about?

with no keen flurry or blood for blood bards dps takes a serious hit.