Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
you already know this is the way it is on these forums. if you see something before it comes out you worry about and bring it up you are crying without trying it. if you complain after they are put in you are told to shut up and go play wow. this group doesn't care about anyone else that plays the game now nor would want to play it in the future. the sheep will go to their own slaughter.

i can agree we shouldn't jump to conclusions over these postings until they are put in game, but the fact is both sides are already doing the same thing. one group sees the changes and can think of the bad things possible and the other only thinks of the positives. neither side cares to see the other side of the argument.

tanaka was right when he said the forums were a horrible idea and would never work.
That's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?

You claim that the problem with the forums is that everyone takes a black/white position, but to claim as such, you'd have to be seeing only the black and white positions yourself.

The issue here isn't 'looking at the positives' vs 'looking at the negatives' personal opinions on speculation are just that.

The issue here is that people are jumping to conclusions without the patch being out. That's the divide. One side is saying "Wait and see." While the other is saying "OMG I'M GONNA RAGE QUIT NAOZ!"

Even if the patch on paper involves tropes you might disagree with, the gameplay itself may be enjoyable enough to keep you on. As billing won't commence til sometime after the post is out, give it a shot first to confirm your opinion. There's no harm in that. For as much time and so called loyalty you've invested into the game at this point, that alone should encourage you to give it a chance.