[dev1206] Class Reforms & Action Lists

[Atoli]

Cya. Paladin will clearly be the main tank, but I guess we read different lists.

I read the localized version, but I don't think there's a huge difference just because it's a translation.
What I read was "hate-gain-skill 1", "hate-gain-skill 2",..."hate-gain-skill 5", "def-up-skill" + various attack skills and a description of the class saying "takes all the dmg the monsters deal while dealing some dmg himself".
Sorry for thinking that's the basic definition of TANK..
Whereas the description of GLA was "Oh, you deal a tiny little bit of dmg so you can't pull hate at all, but we give you nice healing skills to help others and a few aggro-pulling-skills as well so with all your useless def, so you can at least help out RD with tanking"?
Okay, I'm not saying Paladin is not ging to be tanking alot, too.
I'm just saying MRD will have to do a lot more tanking than before..
I don't really mind though, I'm even fine with the way PUG is going to work, because that's something that I want to try before saying it REALLY will be bad.

But what I KNOW is bad is what they did with CNJ and THM, and it makes me upset enough to quit without playing after 1.20.

[syntaxlies]

did anyone notice taht con got single sleep only now and blm got aoe sleep

[Vingtdeux]

Archer auto-attack listed in the skill list makes be believe there will be a "skill" to trigger it on/off like some people have said.

Stop whining before trying it, your speculation is as good as anyone's else.

[Ruri]

Going to have to relearn how to play each class, would be more fun if all my melee classes weren't 50 already (Except pug). Guess I'll run around for awhile and solo stuff until I figure out what works best for me. I would start fresh with my 2nd char but waiting for mailing system so I don't start poor and useless. Its going to be a long 2-3 months to wait for the job system...

Edit:
On a side note, LOL at the ragequitters quitting before spending 1 second with the new class skill setup.

[Griss]

Cya. Paladin will clearly be the main tank, but I guess we read different lists.

as far as "Main tank" its all about style and situation.

Gladiator has always represented the calm and cool defensive type.

Marauder has always represented the wild and possibly crazy offensive type.

the jobs are just going to amplify that.

If people are still having trouble grasping that then refer to the following visual aid.

[Elexia]

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What I read was Paladin would be able to maintain hate better. While MRD can boost defense, including the defense of a Paladin, Paladin also has cures which unless SE adjusts it, produces a decent amount of enmity especially abilities that restores your party member's HP as well as your own in one go.

[BlaiseLallaise]

They axed Water but Leviathan is planned and already in the dat files, so that excuse is invalid.

I guess I should clarify for those who didn't immediately see it. It was a joke.

[Bluebun]

Curing maybe a Water element. Which could explain why they only gave two "elemental" abilities to CON.

[Hyrist]

I don't see why there has to be only one tank.

I like the differing methods of tanking and have listed where I think it would be effective. Though it might get proven better in the reverse, who knows. Doesn't matter. There never should be a monopoly in one particular role.

[Krausus]

Doomspike II you will be missed but not that much as i have multiple jumps and fire breath!!!!!