[dev1206] Class Reforms & Action Lists

[Atoli]

Oh great, just give all the element based skills to THM, because that makes sense..
Goodbye FFXIV, I was willing to pay for this game before I read they were basically killing the CNJ class, but not anymore.

Oh, and MRD/Warrior becoming the main tank instead of Paladin, which would have made at least ANY sense and PUG as a magic hybrid? Hybrid builds are always useless..not that PUG was anything but useless before either though.
Great job SE, killing the only three classes that were fun to me.
*ragequit*

[Firon]

Hmm. LNC for me has always been about control. Control of the enemy's position and yours, control of the enemy's TP and yours, control of your attack speed, crowd control, etc. Some TP control might be left, but only for yourself not the enemy. Control of position is not there. Crowd control...well, two aoe ws, need I say more? No way to reduce enemy movement or speed, or change yours for that matter. In exchange for removing all that we get...high damage. Whoopee.
In effect: LNC went from support/DD to high dmg DD.

Naturally, specifics aren't known yet but it looks like LNC has been severely nerfed from what its concept used to be. :/

I don't remember seeing an lancer being an CC type of class or an good AOE class. maybe they can't spam twisting vice anymore but they look good still.

[Firon]

Oh great, just give all the element based skills to THM, because that makes sense..
Goodbye FFXIV, I was willing to pay for this game before I read they were basically killing the CNJ class, but not anymore.

Oh, and MRD/Warrior becoming the main tank instead of Paladin, which would have made at least ANY sense and PUG as a magic hybrid? Hybrid builds are always useless..not that PUG was anything but useless before either though.
Great job SE, killing the only three classes that were fun to me.
*ragequit*

Where did you read MRd becoming the main tank >.>. I'll hold my breath for pgl i will see how it works out

[normalforce]

PGL seems disapointing tbh they have to many mp move for my taste they need a move to restore mp. They should make an trait that restore's mp when using second wind for pgl.

Edit: If mp becomes a problem on pgl i may axe the job i love so much ; ;

Looks like Bard's have an AoE Refresh, so in parties MP might not be that much of a problem. As a PUG, I've run into MP problems doing those 15 minute Grand Companies leves.

[Hyrist]

Again, the majority voted for major changes. If you are blindsided by all of this, then you've not been paying attention.

To quit without trying the new system I think is rather foolish as well, as you're not seeing the piratical aspects or what actually works and what actually doesn't. Pugilist could be incredible as a hybrid, you simply don't know.

If you got attached to the way the game was, you've only yourself to blame, really.

[Elexia]

Oh great, just give all the element based skills to THM, because that makes sense..
Goodbye FFXIV, I was willing to pay for this game before I read they were basically killing the CNJ class, but not anymore.

Oh, and MRD/Warrior becoming the main tank instead of Paladin, which would have made at least ANY sense and PUG as a magic hybrid? Hybrid builds are always useless..not that PUG was anything but useless before either though.
Great job SE, killing the only three classes that were fun to me.
*ragequit*

Cya. Paladin will clearly be the main tank, but I guess we read different lists.

[Reaujien]

Again, unless they change it, not possible. Currently firing an arrow forces you to turn around. But there's still like I said, the issue of the animation lock.

Your controls must be broken then. And auto-attack animation doesn't "lock" you from turning around, only WS, abilities, etc. (unless, of course, you have a broken client too).

Also, the quickest bow (atm) attacks at, what, every 3 seconds (+/- 0.1 or so) approximately? You mean to say you can't turn around in between auto-attacks after hearing/reading from your "sleeper" saying he/she is going to put the mob to sleep? If not, either the person who is going to sleep the mob doesn't know how to communicate, or you aren't paying attention.

[Sehro]

Again, the majority voted for major changes. If you are blindsided by all of this, then you've not been paying attention.

To quit without trying the new system I think is rather foolish as well, as you're not seeing the piratical aspects or what actually works and what actually doesn't. Pugilist could be incredible as a hybrid, you simply don't know.

If you got attached to the way the game was, you've only yourself to blame, really.

This, the game will keep on changing through out the next year so be prepared

[Reaujien]

If that happens that means someone wasn't assisting the Tank or hitting whichever target it was assigned. So don't blame the mechanic, blame the player for not doing it's job.

Pretty much sums it up!

[Hyrist]

I've noticed something. They've distributed the CC between classes fairly evenly, giving a lot of different effects to different players. Lots of "Chance to Stun/Bind/Slow" On some of these combos. Which is nice to see some distribution among them.

Also, from my observation it looks like Paladin will be primary tank on the "Boss" With Warrior being the off-tank or tanking the fodder types, with Conjurer and Paladin working together as a sort of healing beacon. I see Pugilist taking an evasion/accuracy build and pulling hate only when it needs the extra MP.

There's been a lot of thought and depth placed in this new system, and we're only halfway through the levels. (which explains why it feels missing/incomplete, this game should be planned with 99 cap in mind.) I'm interested in seeing how it develops.