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    PUG Abl. 4: Increases evasion and restores MP when an attack is evaded. Effect fades upon evading an attack or after a certain period of time elapses.
    I see that but that's the problem if pgl is not gonna be tanking how do we get mp back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I see that but that's the problem if pgl is not gonna be tanking how do we get mp back?
    PUG Abl. 4: Increases evasion and restores MP when an attack is evaded. Effect fades upon evading an attack or after a certain period of time elapses.

    See bold red text
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    PUG Abl. 4: Increases evasion and restores MP when an attack is evaded. Effect fades upon evading an attack or after a certain period of time elapses.

    See bold red text
    That text does not imply that we get mp back after it fades, but it could have been translated wrong, it seems to be the same skill as feather foot we have now, so it could work the same way as it does now.
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    I think this thing has a few typos. For one, why are there 4 fire spells for THM/BLM? I thought we were trying to avoid redundant abilities. Second, why do CON, THM, and BLM all have sleep spells? This is especially confusing since they actively mention CON being able to put mobs to sleep, whereas don't make that same mention for THM. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't help but think that they made a mistake there.

    Either way, still excited for PUG, MNK, and BRD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakhim View Post
    I think this thing has a few typos. For one, why are there 4 fire spells for THM/BLM? I thought we were trying to avoid redundant abilities. Second, why do CON, THM, and BLM all have sleep spells? This is especially confusing since they actively mention CON being able to put mobs to sleep, whereas don't make that same mention for THM. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't help but think that they made a mistake there.

    Either way, still excited for PUG, MNK, and BRD.
    Also, no Fire single target when the other elemental spells have single target. Why do we need three Fire AoE spells?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon View Post
    Also, no Fire single target when the other elemental spells have single target. Why do we need three Fire AoE spells?
    Fire Combos seem to be focused on doing heavy, fast, consistent damage over an AOE. Each stage of the combo reduces the casting time of the next spell so this is how you'd do burst damage to mow down a group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I see that but that's the problem if pgl is not gonna be tanking how do we get mp back?

    Umm bards......

    BRD Mag. 1 Self AoE Gradually restores the MP of all party members within range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Umm bards......

    BRD Mag. 1OSelf AoEGradually restores the MP of all party members within range.
    Bards are not in the next patch....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I see that but that's the problem if pgl is not gonna be tanking how do we get mp back?
    Amen.

    1. MP pot : Ether

    2. Pray your pt have bard for mp recover and dont even pray, PT will have bard (next patch)

    3. 5 toggle that consume MP are element dmg and kick and the one prevent move or use skill will be remove after use a skill so np. At best you only active 2 and the 3rd will be on and off

    4. ∟PGL WS 8 : Melee attack. Chance to absorb MP when executed from the right or left of the target.Combo: PGL WS 5, Bonus: Chance to increase Absorb MP effect.

    so no, Mp wont be issue with PUG, just use stuff right
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 11-18-2011 at 11:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    Amen.

    1. MP pot : Ether

    2. Pray your pt have bard for mp recover and dont even pray, PT will have bard (next patch)

    3. 5 toggle that consume MP are element dmg and kick and the one prevent move or use skill will be remove after use a skill so np. At best you only active 2 and the 3rd will be on and off

    4. ∟PGL WS 8 : Melee attack. Chance to absorb MP when executed from the right or left of the target.Combo: PGL WS 5, Bonus: Chance to increase Absorb MP effect.
    Oh good i did not see the WS 8 effect i must have missed that nice pointing that out, does not seem so bad after all i guess.
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