[dev1206] Class Reforms & Action Lists

[AceofRains]

Both CNJ and THM have a sleep spell locked to them. Why not just give THM the sleep spell since it has the sleep AoE on BLM then make the sleep spell exclusive to DoM. Then CNJ Mag 7 can be free to be something else, like shell or water.

[OMEGA_HACK]

they've been saying this:

Jobs are specialized party geared alternatives to their counter-part of classes. I can look it up for you but I am pretty certain that Yoshi-P himself stated that Jobs are more specialized meaning which they get access to new special abilities but are unable to use other classes abilities in turn.

Hence Jobs = large parties
Classes = smaller parties/solo

Like I said I can look it up for you, but it will have to wait till tomorrow when I get some more free time on my hands.

Edit: Just to clarify, a job will not lose out on its class's ability. IE: DRG will be able to use all the LNC abilities, since its a specialization of that class, however, DRG will probably not be able to use all or any of the THM/CNJ abilities while LNC will be able to.

[Brainriot]

MRD somehow still sounds a better tank than GLA.

[Hulan]

MRD somehow still sounds a better tank than GLA.

This will depend greatly on two things. The first is whether or not they tweak the damage formulas to heavily weight Vitality. Having much higher VIT on PLD/GLA needs to outweigh the higher HP on MRD/WAR. Secondly, the new Emnity abilities need to be potent enough to outpace damage Hate over time. If both of those two requirements are met, I don't see why PLD/GLA can't be a much better tank than MRD/WAR.

Edit: On further thought, ideally, VIT will have a prominent scaling effect on Damage. In that way, hordes of easy enemies that are dangerous because of their numbers will be more easily handled by MRD/WAR due to it's high HP, meanwhile GLA/PLD with it's high VIT can easily shrug off heavy NM style damage.

[OMEGA_HACK]

Also, all the jobs are missing 10 traits. So there is a possibility that GLA/PLD will get better traits to make it more effective in tanking (ie: def/mdef boost, enm boosts, etc)

[PrettyPrincess]

Also, all the jobs are missing 10 traits. So there is a possibility that GLA/PLD will get better traits to make it more effective in tanking (ie: def/mdef boost, enm boosts, etc)

exactly. something tells me this list was rushed because it just happened to come out the day after people wouldn't stfu with "WHERE IS LIST"

[OMEGA_HACK]

which is why they need to learn that we'd rather have all the information about one topic together? (assuming they are willing to give any information), at least on big things like this.

Personally I would've been okay to the idea of giving them more time to produce the "Classes abilities/traits changes" post in full and have the lesser information given out this past week. (IE: AH/search/item dying/etc)

[PrettyPrincess]

which is why they need to learn that we'd rather have all the information about one topic together? (assuming they are willing to give any information), at least on big things like this.

Personally I would've been okay to the idea of giving them more time to produce the "Classes abilities/traits changes" post in full and have the lesser information given out this past week. (IE: AH/search/item dying/etc)

They need to stop giving in so much. Perhaps we might see an updated list later.

[Betelgeuzah]

which is why they need to learn that we'd rather have all the information about one topic together? (assuming they are willing to give any information), at least on big things like this.

Nope, I'd rather have it like this thank you. People assume things and blow them out of proportion regardless, but it doesn't even matter. No harm done to anyone but those getting all personal about it.

[Viridiana]

which is why they need to learn that we'd rather have all the information about one topic together? (assuming they are willing to give any information), at least on big things like this.

Personally I would've been okay to the idea of giving them more time to produce the "Classes abilities/traits changes" post in full and have the lesser information given out this past week. (IE: AH/search/item dying/etc)

If they need more time to give us information, they should just tell us up front. Yes, it's annoying when things get delayed, but it's better for us to be aware of the delays up front rather than a wall of silence. The reason we were all clamoring for the information to be released was because they were about six weeks behind without any word on why. >_>