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    seeing as they do not want to venture too far off from the generic hyur + something feature for a new race, i'd rather we get better character customization and updated textures than a new race in 4.0


    Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
    SE has a history of hiding behind odd excuses that don't make sense given they bring in a good chunk of change from this game.
    this is also what i've seem to notice about them.. they always have a reason to delay things

    Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
    If they need some more people on-board the design team, bring them on. I doubt there is a lack of talent, you can only hide behind "the team is small" for so long.

    And unless they utterly scrapped 1.0 and deleted EVERYTHING, the models (and maybe the better textures? Never played 1.0).
    i doubt they'd delete the hi-res textures, most likely they've just archived them. and it's not like they create lowres textures and implement it right away. usually when you make textures for models you make it HD/UHD/high resolution first then downscale it for the platform or system it's going to be used on.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolys View Post
    Sure but I fear it would require the development team to edit all the character/armor meshes already existing in the game to allow for such functionalities. On top of that there does not seem to be any motivation to do so from SE, so this is why I have no expectaction on that matter ^^
    armors and what not already stretch with height and chest adjustment etc. so i doubt there's much to edit


    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    Sir/Madam. That isn't a butt, that's a piece of cardboard. >:/
    LOL, why, thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
    snippy snip.
    I played during 1.0 and everything was setup differently; the characters, the world, the menus, the textures... They added patches for a while until Yoshi-P said his team could only do so much with the current engine and had to rebuild from scratch. THAT is why we had the Bahamut destroying everything ending because they were literally restarting from zero. Everything was also a lot less optimized and used a lot more polygons which is why it ran like crap on mid-range machines.

    Due to all this, I very highly doubt they kept the backend of 1.0. It would simply not be compatible anymore to the 2.0 archetype/engine.

    Here is an example of what I was talking about:

    http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/19/focus-graphics-killed-final-fantasy-xiv-heres-square-enix-revived/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    You clearly don't understand, Square Enix will not change their practices, they follow a formula, a recipe with this MMO and they are unlikely to stop doing what they've been doing since Yohi-P took charge of the game, we will continue to see re-skinned gear until the game dies in whatever number of years, we will also see new gear every major patch, that won't ever change regardless, however!...

    If we convince them to bring back 1.0 models (if not better) plus more character customization (most likely in the form of sliders) we would have already won!...

    You will continue to get your new gear every six months but it will look better!...
    No I do believe you don't understand. The design team doesn't simply make new gear and that is that. They also have to go back and redesign gear for new races and jobs. They also have to take in unique requests the community gives like letting males wear bunny suits. Also have to make a wide variety of new designs for the upcoming expansion. This is on top of making sure they meet deadlines for the 3-4 month patch cycles. I don't want to believe you are this close minded on the process.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
    SE has a history of hiding behind odd excuses that don't make sense given they bring in a good chunk of change from this game. Since PS3 support is going away, better textures and an overall upgrade wouldn't be out of the question. (Heck, a friend told me they may still be running on 1.0 hardware for their backend. Don't know if this is true but... Come'on.)

    If they need some more people on-board the design team, bring them on. I doubt there is a lack of talent, you can only hide behind "the team is small" for so long.

    And unless they utterly scrapped 1.0 and deleted EVERYTHING, the models (and maybe the better textures? Never played 1.0).
    It isn't PS3 limitations on why you don't have 1.0 proportions. It isn't a memory issue, it is simply a design aspect. Design team has openly said that to ease the already straining development process to get these new pieces done, they had to alter character models from their 1.0 counterpart. They need to make the gear not only for right now, but go back to these pieces when new jobs and races come out. Not even that, most of 1.0's gear were just recolor and reskins. People can't make the argument that 1.0 did it when the only gear that wasn't reskinned was Darklight and Job AF gear and even then I am willing to bet it took forever.

    Simply just adding people doesn't make it all better either. They still have their priorities and systems in place for a reason.

    It is sad that people think the issue is just black and white and don't even attempt to remotely understand the process.


    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I would gladly have less new armor in favor for my 1.0 character back. I was perfectly happy with the armor choices in 1.x...none of that changed for me But that is just me of course...

    And not just a bigger butt, just my entire character..as I mentioned earlier, the weights we had, the hair..etc. It was just so much better.
    One of this game's biggest appeal is it's glamour system mostly to the casual playerbase. It wouldn't be a wise choice to switch over to this formula. Value of glamour in this game is higher than your standard MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    The body proportions are the way they are is because it is easier to create gear for multiple races if they have similar enough proportions. They would have to accommodate for multiple proportions which will make the process that much longer than it already is. They said it takes 6+ months to create a new gear set with the method they have currently. Which is why you may see reskins sometimes. If they bring multiple proportions in, it will take much longer for them to create a gear set, hence they will feel more forced to just reskin armors.

    So basically, you want a bigger butt with developers making more reskin armor? Or do you want the way it is now?
    I would gladly have less new armor in favor for my 1.0 character back. I was perfectly happy with the armor choices in 1.x...none of that changed for me But that is just me of course...

    And not just a bigger butt, just my entire character..as I mentioned earlier, the weights we had, the hair..etc. It was just so much better.

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    This game has some of the worst character customization in the industry. It's pretty sad. I always thought Aion's character creation was some of the best around. Would love to see something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khubla_Kha View Post
    This game has some of the worst character customization in the industry. It's pretty sad. I always thought Aion's character creation was some of the best around. Would love to see something like that.
    Really? Have you actually played any MMOS? FFXIV isn't nearly the worst around. Have you seen world of warcraft? It took them 11 years to update the original character models, and their character creation is still "pick four faces, now pick four skin colours"



    Be glad you had options in this game. Will this game ever be as good as Tera or Black Desert in customisation? No, probably not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokier View Post
    Will this game ever be as good as Tera or Black Desert in customisation? No, probably not...
    I'd rather not have Black Desert's customization. It has way too much freedom that you can make characters that look like abominations, like these (spoilers just because):


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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    I'd rather not have Black Desert's customization. It has way too much freedom that you can make characters that look like abominations, like these (spoilers just because):


    You missed my point.

    And at any rate, if FFXIV had black desert's customisation i'd be very happy. I want more control over how my character looks in every aspect, not just their body. ._.


    I had a lot of fun making characters in BD despite it lacking creative control when it came to the men and what class you could pick. False advertising 101 = Black Desert.



    Rarely ever get to make characters with closed eyes.



    Lokier VS Lokier, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    I'd rather not have Black Desert's customization. It has way too much freedom that you can make characters that look like abominations, like these (spoilers just because):


    omg cannot unsee D:
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