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  1. #61
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    jameseoakes's Avatar
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    James Oakes
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    In my opinion, newbies deserve whatever is thrown at them when they queue into ranked content without knowing a single thing about how to PvP or the mode. You don't yet understand how frustrating and insulting it is to get a free loss because of dead weight players.
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    Players still have a responsibility to behave in a acceptable way. Call people pit when they are playing badly can be fine especially if your willing to explain to them how they can be better, verbally abusing people is not acceptable and if you can't play without doing that you shouldn't play.
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  2. #62
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    Death Fury
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    Warrior Lv 60
    If you don't have a clue what you're doing, don't step in ranked mode where people are trying to climb. That much is common courtesy in any game you play. Would you show up to a wedding in a dirty old tracksuit while everyone is wearing tailor made 3 piece suits? Would you go into an interview for a job completely unprepared? No. Dont be silly. Put your best foot forward and people will treat you accordingly.
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  3. #63
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    Igneous Angeleou
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    Balmung
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    People trying to validate 8v8 as practice is unbelievable to me, that is no practice. You are learning nothing about PvP 8v8 and 4v4 are like night and day. Its liter 16 people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The only way to learn 4v4 , is to play 4v4 , tough luck
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  4. #64
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Diabolos
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Igneous View Post
    People trying to validate 8v8 as practice is unbelievable to me, that is no practice. You are learning nothing about PvP 8v8 and 4v4 are like night and day. Its liter 16 people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The only way to learn 4v4 , is to play 4v4 , tough luck
    This is true for the most part. You can still use 8 v 8 to familiarize yourself with your job PVP abilities and the crates, limit break and heavy medal mechanics of feast but for the most part 8 v 8 is a pretty useless mode in terms of preparing you for 4 v 4. There should have been an unranked 4 v 4 mode but I guess SE is afraid of further dividing the PVP playerbase. Regardless there's too many players to hide behind to be able to effectively gauge how you would fare in the transition from 8 v 8 to 4 v 4 and the two modes play too differently with 4 v 4 putting more emphasis on individual performance.
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  5. #65
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The big problem with "Oh, go practice in Frontlines or 8v8" is that nobody ever even queues in those modes. Newbies to PVP have no choice but to step into ranked.
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  6. #66
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon1101 View Post
    Actually why don't you post this in general discussion with title "Be nice to everyone"

    Edit: I don't think your point is feast, you just want to be treated nice although you mess up everything
    So just say ppl should always be nice
    Way to escalate this from a 0 to a 9.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  7. #67
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    Dimitrii's Avatar
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    The big problem with "Oh, go practice in Frontlines or 8v8" is that nobody ever even queues in those modes. Newbies to PVP have no choice but to step into ranked.
    People actually did used to play that crap mode (8 v 8), at least on primal, at the end of the last season when everyone was trying to sit on their points. There were time frames where the queues were as low as 5 minutes pretty much on a nightly basis after 8 pm eastern.
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  8. #68
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    MiraKershaw's Avatar
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    Mira Verescu
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 71
    Can learn plenty from 8v8 as a tank can learn how to shut down dps, as a healer trying to survive against 4 dps will get you more than ready for 2 and as a dps going lone wolf and trying to figure out a burst to tear people apart, sure it's not the same but you still learn core parts to each role in a less stressful environment
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  9. #69
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    Casper Colt
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saru_Grey View Post
    do we want to keep the PvP community small forever or do we want to expand?
    Because of the way the reward system is designed, most of the community clearly wants to keep it small forever. Less players means less competition, which means higher probability of ranking. Which I'd assume is one of the reasons some people are so unnecessarily harsh and toxic in PvP. They know they can bully away potential competition and go unpunished for doing so.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPresident View Post
    Because of the way the reward system is designed, most of the community clearly wants to keep it small forever. Less players means less competition, which means higher probability of ranking. Which I'd assume is one of the reasons some people are so unnecessarily harsh and toxic in PvP. They know they can bully away potential competition and go unpunished for doing so.
    This is pretty funny lol. The people that are being "bullied" away are usually under performing. The ones who find themselves being constantly harassed or having vitriol thrown at them are almost always constantly under performing. So how exactly would they be competition?
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