[Win Trades]So I'm the only one never saw this?

[Avalon1101]

Real things? Like what? A win trader coming on here and posting "Yeah I'm a win trader, here is a link to a video of me doing it, and here is a link to my rankings." Why would someone open themselves up to getting banned? You can't post calling someone out either because that too results in a ban from the forums. If people do have actual proof then I would suggest they open a ticket.

Click on the link in #11 and see what I quote in #18
What I'm asking for is, did you/your friend see one or being asked to do so

No one will believe what you said if you do not have any evidence

[Gravton]

Well you won't believe it. Clearly the community already does so I don't know about "no one". But answer your question yes, I have seen, my friends have seen it. We have even seen posts in party finder and Reddit looking for groups to participate. But that's because I've been playing since launch.

[Avalon1101]

Well you won't believe it. Clearly the community already does so I don't know about "no one". But answer your question yes, I have seen, my friends have seen it. We have even seen posts in party finder and Reddit looking for groups to participate. But that's because I've been playing since launch.

That's what I'm asking for, but again I did say I wasn't there for S1 at the beginning so I would say nothing about S1
And all my searches about win trades(like GM showed up or someone being asked to do so with screencut etc) on google are something happened around half year ago(edit: at least half year ago, and some in 2015 and 2014

So did you see that in S2?

[Februs]

all of my searches about win trades(like GM showed up or someone being asked to do so with a screencut etc) on google are something happened around half a year ago(edit: at least half a year ago, and some in 2015 and 2014

So did you see that in S2?

I think the problem you're going to run into here is that almost no one will have saved any of the images or videos for very long.

A lot of people have seen it. We might have even recorded the proof via screen capture or video, but that doesn't mean that we held onto them after the fact. Even if someone submitted a grief report to SE, they probably didn't keep the evidence any longer than they had to. They also asked for us to use the in-game support desk feature, and I'm not even sure if that supports photo/video submissions. Even if it does, the only reason to hold onto those images after the submission is for public-shaming or witch-hunting, which can actually land the person doing it with a ban if they're not careful.

That is why SE's original call for reports was such a catch 22. They wanted us to report things that were suspicious, but if you did you ran the risk of getting into just as much trouble as the person you reported. I think a lot of people are nervous to even submit reports, because we really don't know how SE will handle it ... assuming they do anything at all. The worst case scenario is getting hit with a ban for putting up the evidence you're asking for. Just calling someone out by name here on the forums can land you in a pot of hot water, so it's unlikely anyone will go out of their way to give you anything more than anecdotal evidence with ambiguous details.

[Potatoes]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/747577/

[kensatsu]

You don't need proof, you can cheat so it happen.
but the solo feast don't reflect a lot of potential wintrading, seem the ranking was legit in past season.
but for the premade feast it's a other story, we see some complain about wintrading in past season.
I don't say it never happen in solo, but if it happen, it's happen only in few case.
Anyway the op friend is right when them say it's hard to get the reward, you need to play pvp often for all the season and play the best you can to reach top 100, it realy reward dedicacted pvp player.

[HaelseMikiro]

i'm not saying anyone this season is cheating, but in order to support the current feast party rankings, there has to be a small number of teams with LARGE zero win rates to not even show up on the ladder, or a large number of teams with NO wins and small number of matches played

[Bartleby]

I think the most common happening is just people get 7 other friends/LS mates/FC people together and stack the teams. You don't really need to risk being banned or w/e with explicitly having people throw games, its not worth it. What happens now isn't "win trading" in the common sense of the phrase; the people on the losing team might actually be trying and just think they're joining to have some fun messing around in the Feast but the way the organizers split teams, they make sure they're going to win 100% (and of course they're going to queue for ranked 4v4, not custom matches ). This was how several people placed in top 10 LP rankings for Primal last season.

[Ryuko]

Win trading has been happening since PvP arena became a 'thing'. The difference between then and now is that SE will actually do something about it if the offenders are really obvious about what they are doing. Back in the day, I'd see PF groups looking to win trade -- and they'd just be bold and honest about this because they knew they wouldn't be punished for it. Today, SE is trying to crack down, so win traders aren't as obvious to those of you who haven't encountered it yourself. Personally, my only experience with people I think were win trading must have been people who were just doing it to farm tomes. One night when I was trying to get experience in a group party, we kept getting paired against a team that wasn't even trying. I was pretty convinced they were just farming tomes. If we had kept farming them, our ranking would have eventually jumped up, but we opted not to do that because we did not want to be flagged as win traders (since they were basically handing us the matches).

Another important thing to remember is that naming and shaming on the forums is against the ToS. Besides actually reporting someone you think is not playing by the rules, you can't do much. There have been notorious cheaters, win traders, you name it... and the most we can do on the official forums is refer to them in indirect ways. So the most you get here is, "Yeah, it happens. No, I can't cite specific examples for you without risking my forum account."

[MrPresident]

There is 100% win trading going on. There has been since the original wolves den, and still is now, especially with better rewards. It just goes unpunished.