[Win Trades]So I'm the only one never saw this?

[Avalon1101]

So basically every non pvp players are against the mount reward together

And their main points are
1-Too hard to get
2-This reward is weigh too exclusive, shouldnt be like this
3-The matches are not fair, caz top players are using win trades so back to point 1

My opinion about those 3 points is Whats the **** is that want the mount? go que and be the top stop fooling around

And at least 4 ppl replyed me with those "win trades" thing
Im going to say i wasnt there in S1 so i dont know about S1, but i never saw any win trades like what they described "ppl standing there and let one side win"
Why a group of ppl never touch pvp know so many "truth" about ranking matches

Well i just want to know am i the only one never saw so called win trades

Edit: I'm not asking for conspiracy theory things here, is there any real evidence or any experience from you or your friends in S2

[Mimilu]

You sure make the PvP community look so inviting and friendly... σwσ

[FreeKingStefan]

Well i just want to know am i the only one never saw so called win trades

Yes you are. Win trading has been rampant in PVP since day 1.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

You sure make the PvP community look so inviting and friendly... σwσ

We actually are. Of course, just like any other communities in game or in life, there are bad apples, but the larger majority are pretty cool and enjoy the game too. Especially when we're not being labeled, demonized, misrepresented by people that want nothing to do with us, and ignored by both players and SE for the most part.

[Februs]

You should keep in mind that win-trading is not always obvious. It's not like win-traders simply drop everything and stand perfectly still while people kill them. There are a lot of ways to throw a match without doing anything so blatant. You could stack unnecessary numbers of medals and die at the last minute. You could botch your bursts, or avoid scoring the last hit on your kills. You could completely ignore all CC attempts on the healer, or sabotage the CC of your teammates. etc.

That's also assuming that the win-traders are active during your queue, or willing to lose your match. Solo-queue is fairly random in it's matchmaking. In order to stay within range of the person you want to boost, you have to ensure that you also climb and stay in range. That means that they have to win sometimes, not just throw matches. Any match that they get in which is NOT against their friends, is not a match they necessarily want to lose. If they don't recognize any names, they'd just play as normal. If they end up on the same team, then they'll actually go out of their way to win.

The only players who stand completely still and lose on purpose are the ones who are tome farming, as they don't care about the result at all. Season 1 was an absolute nightmare with this particular brand of parasite, but they all jumped ship when the queue's slowed down. They're only in it as long as they can collect tomes quickly. Slow queues = time to move on. Win traders, on the other hand, stuck around.

[NoraFolles]

Eh, give it a few months. I think the people who'll stick around a few months into are those who really wanna get that mount.

[Avalon1101]

What I mean by "seen" is you are asked to do that, or your friends are asked to do so

I'm not mean you lose a game and doubt someone didn't try their best
Because that sounds like conspiracy theory

[FreeKingStefan]

What I mean by "seen" is you are asked to do that, or your friends are asked to do so

I'm not mean you lose a game and doubt someone didn't try their best
Because that sounds like conspiracy theory

You're clueless. Really. Match fixing has been around in just about every single competitive environment both in and out of video games. Sports, hobbies, anything. There is always cheating, and match fixing is one of the more popular ways to cheat because it is easy to make it look legit.

[Avalon1101]

You're clueless. Really. Match fixing has been around in just about every single competitive environment both in and out of video games. Sports, hobbies, anything. There is always cheating, and match fixing is one of the more popular ways to cheat because it is easy to make it look legit.

Your premises:
-Feast is competitive
-Competitive matches always have cheats
-(Some examples here: Sports etc)
Your conclusion:
-Feast do have a lot of cheats

Base on the basic logic of arguement
Your arguement is inductively weak

[FreeKingStefan]

Your premises:
-Feast is competitive
-Competitive matches always have cheats
-(Some examples here: Sports etc)
Your conclusion:
-Feast do have a lot of cheats

Base on the basic logic of arguement
Your arguement is inductively weak

Let's try this:

- There are obvious patterns which help identify win traders
- The best players in the community all know each other. If there a "no-names" on the top of the leaderboards, they are win traders or cheaters(in some rare cases they just get insanely lucky with matchmaking)
- These players are often banned, which is testament that they are(were) win traders