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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    I'd want to see quick, lower potency healing. I'd be even more happy if it was a Chemist of sorts.
    So repeat the failure of Astro and wait 4 patches while it gets buffed until it just has better versions of everyone elses toolkit?

    No thank you.

    Half the ideas in the OP and throughout the thread are DOA at best.

    Though I'd love to see some kind of mudra-esque chemist healer.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 11-06-2016 at 08:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    It can if the class is built for it.
    No healer built around low healing is ever going to work, Because they are Healers.. if they can't keep up with high damage output, then nothing else they do will matter, hence why i pointed out astro, even tho cards clearly give a boost in stats, during the start of HW most people hated it because it simply could not keep up. That's just how this game works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    No healer built around low healing is ever going to work, Because they are Healers.. if they can't keep up with high damage output, then nothing else they do will matter, hence why i pointed out astro, even tho cards clearly give a boost in stats, during the start of HW most people hated it because it simply could not keep up. That's just how this game works.
    Well yeah with that attitude nothing like that will ever work. I'd like to think they can pull it off rather than instantly shooting it down.
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    Chiropracter: Melee healer that cures be whacking allies upside the head with their caduceus weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    Well yeah with that attitude nothing like that will ever work. I'd like to think they can pull it off rather than instantly shooting it down.
    You can't just hope and dream that they can do it, they need to be able to keep up to be a viable class. A healer that heals for 1k instantly is great, but if the tank with 10k hp just took a 7k hit to the face then that healer needs to heal several times (and thus more time) before the tank gets a follow up auto attack or raid wide dmg. What if someone is dead? What is the other healer is trapped in an unavoidable Gaol?

    Does this small heal come with a shield? A HoT? How much MP are they spending on these small heals? Do the heals chain so they can be rewarded for the sacrifice and gamble of the smaller heals, later? More information on your concept is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    Well yeah with that attitude nothing like that will ever work. I'd like to think they can pull it off rather than instantly shooting it down.
    Were you not paying attention to the failure of Astro? Like.... clearly it doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Were you not paying attention to the failure of Astro? Like.... clearly it doesn't work.
    What failure? I had zero issues with the way it handled day 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    What failure? I had zero issues with the way it handled day 1.
    YOU haveing zero issues is debatable, i also had "0 issues" as i had it 60 in the 1st week, that does not mean the class wasn't majorly flawed, major MP consumption for less healing output, cards giving minimal boosts, the list goes on. if you actually tried raiding with it along side a co healer, the problems were very obvious.

    Do not try this "well i saw no problem with it, so it was fine" card, seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordparanoia View Post
    What about a Musicalist? Someone using a flute like Eiko in FF9, buffing the party by playing concerts and healing with music? Maybe also tp/mp Based. I know we already have bards but musicalist would be really ...musical.
    The closest thing we will get as any type of entertainer would be Dancer. They already kinda messed up Bard for that lol.
    They don't even sing, they play a Harp. But to break away from Burst Healing and Migatation.
    Dancer could be HoT that have stacked HoT so the more you dance, the more healing can be added up I guess?
    Say you dance but it stacks up to 3 times, use a skill called "Samba" to increase your potency for a bit or something idk lol.
    Chemist could be a mix of stuff....They could mix for really good potions and save a few maybe, or mix things for a buff, shield, a HoT pot, something new.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    What failure? I had zero issues with the way it handled day 1.
    For once, I agree with Blood Aki...In 3.0 I considered myself a REALLY good AST, as good as I could be...
    but obviously it suffered issues, and you had to be on your toes 24/7. I was using LA EVERY TIME it was OCD.
    AST was awful, pure 100% awful until this more recent patch that made me 100% main it now.
    It took over a year of TLC to fix what mess it was. It had issues, you really can't deny it if it took THIS long to fix it.
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 11-06-2016 at 10:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
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    This poll is for funsies. >///w///> ♥
    I think WHM/SCH covers everything and AST is a hybrid of the two. Consumables seems clunky and the rest sounds more like support.
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