So are we *ever* getting the planned list of Class/Ability changes?

[Crunkjuice]

Here's a news flash: They put out a faulty product, admitted as such and said they're going to work to regain our trust. Failing time and again to meet their own deadlines does not instil trust. Quite the opposite.

It is not an "entitled attitude" to expect them to follow through on their promises.

they have not earned my trust. how am i supposed to believe 2.0 will be as good as they say, and delivered on time if they can't even put patch note out on time. going take more than 2 endgame fights and a few tossed together crappy dungeons to keep me entertained for long. Ty SE for the char head start but not much else going on for this game.

[Burn]

Do you think Tempur-Pedic is ever going to tell you what's in that foam? Do you think you will ever know what special sauce McDonald's uses or Coca-Cola is? Do you think Apple is going to divulge info on the iPhone 5 or 6 or whatever they are up to before they are ready to divulge? How about Hollywood? They going to divulge script info or endings?

They won't tell you whats in Mcdonalds because its super fattening along coca-cola's! The special sauce is usually 3-500 hidden calories on an already insane amount of calories alone!

[goonMagi]

Has it been confirmed that 1.20 will begin pay to play services? I was under the impression that 1.20 would come out, as well as some jobs, before pay to play which would have been closer to march 2012. Maybe I read the road map incorrectly..

please confirm/deny

[Jennestia]

Has it been confirmed that 1.20 will begin pay to play services? I was under the impression that 1.20 would come out, as well as some jobs, before pay to play which would have been closer to march 2012. Maybe I read the road map incorrectly..

please confirm/deny

It's been confirmed we'll be paying for subs after experiencing 1.20 for ourselves to see if we feel the game is worth even a sub fee of any nature.

[captainpicard]

I think they want to use the new job content as the proverbial carrot on the stick to try and get people to pay. That is why pay to play starts prior to new job system.

Pretty disheartening. Doesn't give me a lot of hope.

[NadienKirisame]

I think they want to use the new job content as the proverbial carrot on the stick to try and get people to pay. That is why pay to play starts prior to new job system.

Pretty disheartening. Doesn't give me a lot of hope.

Why they have said if you don't want to pay for 1.20 then don't... if you want to come back for 1.21 then you can and if you still don't like it then don't pay and wait... they are not holding anything out in front of you. If anything you are doing that to yourself really... but then you humans do that to yourselves all the time really...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[goonMagi]

words

Thanks. It's too bad, I feel like the game is miles away from being worth a monthly fee.

[NadienKirisame]

Thanks. It's too bad, I feel like the game is miles away from being worth a monthly fee.

Then don't pay and wait till you do feel like it is or could be. No one is holding a gun to your head and making you pay to play... I don't understand why you humans keep bringing this up as if someone is pulling the money from you and you can not stop them.

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[goonMagi]

Then don't pay and wait till you do feel like it is or could be.

This is obviously the option we are all going to be given. However, you spitefully pointing it out doesn't make it any less of a disappointment for me. I want to play FF online, and I would like it to be good. If I find the game not worth paying, not only will I have already sunk a cost of time and actual money to buy the initial game, I will have lost out on something I was expecting to enjoy.

Also, I would like to say that the option to quit devolves the game for players who decide not to quit. So why would you so begrudgingly hint that I should leave? I think we are all hoping XIV will be worth our money; I don't want free to play crappy content forever, so why don't you stop trolling?

[Jennestia]

Current game development costs are around $57-80m+ for new non-indie projects, trust me, subs alone won't cover any development costs, maybe it'll pay for some of their lunches, but it'll take quite a few years time to even break even, let alone pay for it. The subs now are for the continued operation of XIV, they're even offering a discounted prices (pending) which alone should tell you it's not "to pay for 2.0".

It's to develop content (i.e patch 1.20+) and even then, making some money with your project is better than making almost zero, especially given that a lot of stores aren't restocking XIV yet in some areas.