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  1. #11
    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    My point was you aren't GOING to, of course you aren't forced, But, No one is going to do content with a group that they know will not accomplish anything. Floor 100+ is for the "hardcore" type, so they know the same rules may apply, You will want to do them with people you trust.

    One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
    My point is that I'd like to be able to do floors 51-100 with whoever. 101-120 with X friends who are online, and then maybe 121-130 with Y friends who pop on. With my static, I know 7 talented other individuals that I could make 35 different party compositions with.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Isn't this.. exactly how raiding works...? You get 7 other people who will for the most part, stay the same people you'll do the fights with. not to mention like 100+ is optional. and you can't solo or probably don't want to do it with random people, unless you get lucky.
    PotD isn't raiding though. It's supposed to be hard, but it isn't a raid. There are people all over who want to do PotD 101+. If the restrictions weren't so heavy people would be able to get in easier. Having something in DF has no negative effect. The restriction on 51-100 just seems silly. So yes get rid of that.

    But the fixed group thing needs to change. A big reason as to why people are clearing things this patch is RF. Restricting things to fixed groups has obvious negative effects.
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    Gokuhan's Avatar
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    Gokuhan Kai
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    The best way to do this without requiring a premade party would be to allow matched parties that fill the roles of a light party (1 tank, 1 healer, 2 dps), and not restarting from 101 if you wipe would be needed to avoid trolls.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    My point was you aren't GOING to, of course you aren't forced, But, No one is going to do content with a group that they know will not accomplish anything. Floor 100+ is for the "hardcore" type, so they know the same rules may apply, You will want to do them with people you trust.

    One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
    But our point is that you don't get the OPTION in Palace 101-200. At least allow the option for the brave.
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    +1 love to know the reasoning to why they implemented it this way

    Not every1 has time to sit there for 3 hours doing 51 to 100 then another 4 to 5 hours doing 101+ should of had fixed n matches starting from 101
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post

    One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
    Floors 101-110 have been solo'd, I don't see any legitimate reason for locking players out of 100+ if they wish to pug it, as players can pug savage content. I might not go in solo, but I definitely want to do floor 100+ with a friend and 2 other pugs (he's also interested) but we don't have two others who play at the same time constantly, so now a large amount of content is locked for no good reason.

    If people want to slam their face against 'impossible' odds, why not let them? Enforce a proper composition if you go in with a matched party and have a restriction on requiring +60 or over for your weapons and armour, easy as that.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    I understand why they did this, but I feel that the best option would be for players to be able to convert their matched party saves into a fixed party save once they reach floor 100 (or just allow players who beat floor 100 to start from floor 101 with a fixed party like how you can start from 51 if you beat floor 50).

    I admire SE for making the requirements so steep, but I do feel like this will be changed in 3.46, I remember there were a lot of poor decisions in PotD1 that got changed very quickly.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 11-03-2016 at 07:54 AM.

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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    So is Party Finder no longer a thing? Just set the three party slots to [?] and see what kind of Light Party you get.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 11-03-2016 at 07:59 AM.

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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    I love it. People want it nerfed so they can get their black pegasus and stuff.... the same people who complain such items get put in the cash shop or who demand more challenge.

    Don't wall it behind money.....
    Don't wall it behind a challenge wall....
    Its to easy. ...
    Its to hard....

    If this was the community at large that's different. But the hypocritical salt is so massive, I'm afraid I'll run out of popcorn.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Simply not true. You could PF raids dating back to T1, and then complete T2 with an entirely different party.

    Agreed, I think that there are a lot of very poor decisions made regarding the new POTD floors and their restrictions.


    I don't really want to do it that badly, to be honest. I'd like to check it out, but the restrictions make it meh. It's really too bad, Square keeps developing content with a lot of promise, but then makes it restrictive or not fun somehow that completely ruins it. Despite them adding so much to the game, it feels like the game is getting smaller and smaller to me.
    TBH the fact that it's not possible to save pomanders between floor sets in a matched party makes it unviable to do them that way to begin with. I'd prefer this restriction to stay, because people who do it outside of a fixed party would be gimped pretty badly and then we'd get even more complaints about how it is 'impossible'.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I understand why they did this, but I feel that the best option would be for players to be able to convert their matched party saves into a fixed party save once they reach floor 100 (or just allow players who beat floor 100 to start from floor 101 with a fixed party like how you can start from 51 if you beat floor 50).
    The reason you have to start at floor 51 is because floors 51 to 100 are counted for the leaderboard.

    Honestly don't like that myself, wish the leaderboard was only 101+, but alas.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 11-03-2016 at 08:07 AM.

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