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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Why would you need mounts in dungeons when you have short cuts? Mounts are really not essential there and their time could be used on something different. For Chat, depending on your settings you can receive FC / Ls Chat >.> just set it before going in.
    I'm convinced you didn't even read my post. You're just commenting, just because. I'm not talking about FC or LS chat. I'm talking about tells. Furthermore, SHORTCUTS often at times do not feel like short cuts you still have to run quite a bit of way before you reach where you need to go. I figure mounting up would be easier since most people in DF are impatient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OniKimoto View Post
    It would be nice if we could mount up while in dungeons, as well as receive/send tells during duty. I also think it would be quite interesting to access the Company Profile inside duty as well. For many reasons this would help a ton.
    This has been asked for, for a very long time. Yoshi has said it is physically impossible to do these things due to the nature of how duty finder works. When you que, and get into a duty, it moves your character to a different server, and this is what makes receiving tells not work. FC and linkshells are not under this constriction, as can be seen in the Datacenter room for Triple triad and any of the other dutys you do on a daily basis. I hope this helps. Also no thanks to mounts in dungeouns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu View Post
    TYoshi has said it is physically impossible to do these things due to When you get into a duty, it moves your character to a different server, and this is what makes receiving tells not work.
    Almost correct. He said tells could have been made to work that way, but he chose for them not to be, to prevent players from conspiring against other players in the duty. (But there's no way around this, if they are in the same LS/FC though.)
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    Sending tells in duty does open it up for more possible harassment cases, as people tend to think twice before saying something publicly. Although this case alone is not really enough to justify excluding it all together, it is a significant factor I believe they've mentioned before. Just me personally, I'd rather not get them in duty as it's distracting. Kind of like texting and driving, it can wait.

    As for mounts in dungeons, there's certainly been occasions where I wish I could've mounted up and rode through it, in general though I'd agree that it's probably for the best that we can't. For historical reasons, there's always areas in FF games where you can't take a chocobo and have to dismount, mainly for dungeons, so it makes sense in that regard. It's also a bit of a slippery slope, we can ride our mounts now can't we just summon them to help out since this tank sucks or summon them to get more exp? etc etc. Allowing us to mount wouldn't break the game or anything, but it feels wrong, like out of place. And, at the end of the day, you spent another 30 seconds running, that's not really a big deal.
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    I understand, but I just feel like receiving tells in duty would be better. As for the diff server thing, well that's just strange. I feel like it's important an FC mate or someone should be able to convey a message to you regardless if it falls under harassment or not hence the blacklist. Also the extra 30 seconds, I find people still find a reason to nag if you take too long to reach the end, perhaps instead of a mount.. make the short cut actually take you to the point you need to be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OniKimoto View Post
    I understand, but I just feel like receiving tells in duty would be better.
    To be fair, you included this feature as something that would be 'super beneficial', it's clearly not, and is more about convenience than anything else. The potential for abuse in terms of harassment and/or RMT abuse are both great reasons to disallow Tells in dungeons.

    Quote Originally Posted by OniKimoto View Post
    As for the diff server thing, well that's just strange. I feel like it's important an FC mate or someone should be able to convey a message to you regardless if it falls under harassment or not hence the blacklist. Also the extra 30 seconds, I find people still find a reason to nag if you take too long to reach the end, perhaps instead of a mount.. make the short cut actually take you to the point you need to be?
    FC and LS mates can hit you on the FC or LS channels, /tell is not needed for that.

    You mentioned seeing the company profile (of others?) in dungeon and claimed it would be helpful for many reasons. The only one I can think of is cross server friends, and even then I am not sure that it would be any more helpful than remembering a player's name and looking them up since you can't send them a moogle mail, tell or anything else in-game anyway. Of course you could take 20 seconds and look the player and their FC up on the lodestone. Not sure what that would gain you either as the player still needs a character on your server to interact in any meaningful manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
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    I feel like SE had much more grand designs for the Lodestone in mind than what we actually use it for. Like I said, I think it was supposed to be a sort of self-contained social media site where people make friends, follow others, post blogs about their FFXIV experiences, and so forth. A neat idea, but something I think is plainly not a service most players would utilize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SessionZero View Post
    I feel like SE had much more grand designs for the Lodestone in mind than what we actually use it for. Like I said, I think it was supposed to be a sort of self-contained social media site where people make friends, follow others, post blogs about their FFXIV experiences, and so forth. A neat idea, but something I think is plainly not a service most players would utilize.
    Agreed. If the Lodestone was accessible in-game, and if their mobile app every takes flight properly, the Lodestone could be what you're suggesting, and if it went in that direction, it would be hugely beneficial to players. IMHO it would be several orders of magnitude more beneficial than the suggestions made by the OP. Making the Lodestone accessible in-game would give FCs and individuals so many more communication options, the benefits are very high, and it only requires a in-game micro-browser specific to the Lodestone to accomplish.

    Not to mention that the Lodestone is entirely global, so it's cross world across all data centers.

    If there is something that the players should be asking for, the above ideas are exactly the things we should be targeting.
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    No to Mounts in dngs the mojarity of them are small and linear regardless. As for tells I also have to disgree too. Base on what you said your FC mate can msg you in FC chat and Linkshell are their as well. If you want someone to msg you that isnt apart of the FC/LS either write a msg in the mailbox or just wait until your done. I always tell people in /tells Im inquene for DF and about to go in. We dont need people to be distracted DF run with more things that aren't Sensual to the event.
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    Mount isn't necessary in those small maps
    Receiving tells is good, but not sending

    And... Why we need to open FC profile in a dungeon?
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