Season 3 Matchmaking Failure

[Koltik]

Good to know SE does not learn their lesson, nor do they know how to make patch notes. Everyone was so excited to see today's patch notes, specifically:

Matching algorithms have been adjusted to ensure players are matched with others of the same or an adjacent tier.

Low and behold, apparently SE thinks that Unranked is an adjacent tier to Silver, because Silvers are getting in matches with Unranked. Are you kidding?

[TiaHariberux3]

Good to know SE does not learn their lesson, nor do they know how to make patch notes. Everyone was so excited to see today's patch notes, specifically:



Low and behold, apparently SE thinks that Unranked is an adjacent tier to Silver, because Silvers are getting in matches with Unranked. Are you kidding?

Dude its day one its normal Im getting paired with unranked ppl as silver too thats why I wait a bit there arent many silvers in q

[Koltik]

Dude its day one its normal Im getting paired with unranked ppl as silver too thats why I wait a bit there arent many silvers in q

"To ensure that players are matched with others of the same or an adjacent tier.

en·sure
inˈSHo͝or,enˈSHo͝or/
verb
make certain that (something) shall occur or be the case.

Silvers should never see unranked. Plats should never see silvers.

[TiaHariberux3]

"To ensure that players are matched with others of the same or an adjacent tier.

en·sure
inˈSHo͝or,enˈSHo͝or/
verb
make certain that (something) shall occur or be the case.

Silvers should never see unranked. Plats should never see silvers.

Well dunno about primal but since silver my q already went so bad that I called it a day. Haven't seen any silvers in my matches I would have never ever get any pops if it was "only silver" matches for example. Give it time then u can complain but right now with most ppl unranked its just normal imo.

[Vejjiegirl]

Good to know SE does not learn their lesson, nor do they know how to make patch notes. Everyone was so excited to see today's patch notes, specifically:



Low and behold, apparently SE thinks that Unranked is an adjacent tier to Silver, because Silvers are getting in matches with Unranked. Are you kidding?

This is really troubling. I was very excited for season 3 knowing that when I hit silver I wouldn't have to worry about Unranked New players/Trolls/Tomb Farmers in matches...

[Enlial]

Maybe they're allowing for a 3 tier spread. Like, the first person duty finder starts forming a party around gets matched with players of both their adjacent tiers? Bad/vauge wording isnt all that uncommon with patch notes xP If thats the case I dont think it'd be too bad, especially considering they lowered the bar for ranking up so there should be a much more diverse spread of players across ranks up to diamond. On a side note, not sure if being able to get to diamond with a <50% win rate is a good or bad thing.

Anyways, trying to be optimistic. Ill be worried when gold players get matched to unranked.

[FreeKingStefan]

This is one of those things where I would eternally appreciate some insight from their engineers on how the system works. Very frustrating to see that the notes say one thing when the reality is another.

[AdamZ]

Koltik, think you might be jumping the gun on this one. Given how you are easily one of the best on primal you likely the first to silver, and given what que times where yesterday for me (30 min + at 9pm EST, so i just gave up...), there are likely no one else at the top.

Yep, you are the only silver after the ranking update, and there are only 38 total Bronze.

Also, if they did actually adjust how much you lose if a loss, like the notes said, the plus side is at least playing with the unranked and losing will not hurt as much.

[Koltik]

This is one of those things where I would eternally appreciate some insight from their engineers on how the system works. Very frustrating to see that the notes say one thing when the reality is another.

At least someone gets it.

Maybe they're allowing for a 3 tier spread. Like, the first person duty finder starts forming a party around gets matched with players of both their adjacent tiers? Bad/vauge wording isnt all that uncommon with patch notes xP If thats the case I dont think it'd be too bad

This is how Season 1 was, and while it wasn't as bad as Season 2 it was still pretty horrible. Right now Silver is 600, Gold is 1000. Not sure what Platinum or Diamond is, but let's say it's 1500, and Diamond 2000.

Team 1)
4000 Rating
High Platinum Player in Diamond Qualifier: 2000 Rating
Low Silver: 670 Rating
Low Silver: 670 Rating
Low Silver: 670 Rating

Team 2)
4010 Rating
High Silver Player in Gold Qualifier: 1000 Rating
High Silver Player in Gold Qualifier: 1000 Rating
High Silver Player in Gold Qualifier: 1000 Rating
High Silver Player in Gold Qualifier: 1000 Rating

This is not good match making. This is what happened in S1, and it was not fun. There is a huge difference between a 670 rated player and a 1000 rated player, never mind three of them. There is also a big difference between 2000 and 1000, but one player can only do so much in a 4v4 match.

Regarding me getting these games because I'm the only silver, it is irrelevant. My pops were instant on healer. It didn't even give a chance for me to get matched with others that were Bronze, because the queue was literally instant. I'd rather sit in a 30 minute queue for a really even and balanced match than get instant matches of bad match making.

[TiramisuMacaron]

Gold is confirmed not to get unranked, so it is more of a S1 matching system. The problem here is the new rating system.

With the new amounts you lose, you just need a 25% win rate to get to Silver, and a 33% winrate to get to Gold. These gold and silver players that you are being matched with are going to be much lower quality than they were in S1. It probably won't be as bad as S2 matchmaking was, but it will probably be way worse than S1 matchmaking.

Being a self-loathing millennial myself, I blame millennials for this issue. 33% to get Gold? Come on SE.