A12S should have had a title like the Final Witness

[FoxyAreku]

This mount is horrible compared to the gobtank (A4S) which was pretty nice.
The gear is irrevelant since non-raiders will get the same ilvl in a few weeks.
No, a title for people that invest themselves into Savage is needed. Cause actually there is not any reward worth it to do raids. Most people are basically raiding for the challenge. Wanna improve the raid scene ? Give'em better rewards for the time and efforts they put in raiding.

Gear is as good as a title tbh, if you glamour. People will see it and know you cleared it.

But it does feel lazy anyway to not have a title.

[Watachy]

Why titles though? They are probably one of the silliest rewards available. Minions/mounts are at least fun. Don't lots of people hide titles anyway because of the screen clutter?

Some kind of tradition i guess, it was fun and very nice during the coil savage.
Those titles are really cool but now with the unsynch thing they're kinda everywhere, but still cool.

Thing is, why ddin't they implement titles for Alexander Savage like the coils ? "PS3 Limitations ?"

People are collecting mounts and pets, im personally looking for a title that i will fall in love with, and the savage's ones are kinda "exclusive" for a certain amount of time.

[Lunafreya]

There definitley should be a title for this.

[ckc22]

This mount is horrible compared to the gobtank (A4S) which was pretty nice.
The gear is irrevelant since non-raiders will get the same ilvl in a few weeks.
No, a title for people that invest themselves into Savage is needed. Cause actually there is not any reward worth it to do raids. Most people are basically raiding for the challenge. Wanna improve the raid scene ? Give'em better rewards for the time and efforts they put in raiding.

Hint: Everythings going to get reset in 4.0 so everything you spend time raiding on is irrelevant and pointless.

Sure add the title... but the whole point of savage is to have a challenge - I don't get this "holier than thou heap rewards on me" raider mentality.

[technole]

I like to leave titles on for everyone, it's kind of way to see some character personality and maybe what they like in the game. Do they like raiding, crafting, or do they like Khloe too?

Hint: Everythings going to get reset in 4.0 so everything you spend time raiding on is irrelevant and pointless.

Sure add the title... but the whole point of savage is to have a challenge - I don't get this "holier than thou heap rewards on me" raider mentality.

That's okay. The Final Witness title right when 3.0 hit still meant something for awhile. Even with echo added late in the 2.5 series, only a small portion of the player base ever cleared it before HW.

That was the catalyst to why we even have a normal Alexander mode today. Too few can clear high-end raid content, even with echo nerfs, and they didn't want to lock the extra story for everyone behind it. The way this game had been going, it's been pulling incentives from raiders. Only in Midas they started to up the ante by making sure the best ilvl weapon at the time, i245 was gated behind A8S. The anima would never reach it.

[vp_cmc]

I think current savage is not difficult enough to deserve a title. When scob savage was a thing (no unsync), when I saw a player with a title, I knew that he knows something about this game.

And what's bad with epeen and "holier than thou", does it hurt you that much?

[Morningstar1337]

There isn't a special title for Savage?

That's odd. There should be, especially with the Domitrix title already being there as a precedent.

TBF, Coil was an odd case. Only Second Coil had Savage, for starters. And the Gear there was the same ilevel regardless of difficultity. The only thing the Raids had in common was that You get a Minion for getting the last wing of Normal Mode cleared, and even then you have to Lot for the Creator one and as mentioned before, Final Coil had only one mode.

And sepaking of which Savage Coil of Nael had titles for each of the bosses,which is not repeated for any of the Alex wings thus far (for example, you didn't get a title for defeating A8S, even thought it was the same as SCoB in placement. Nor did you gain titles from Twinkledinks, Oppressor, Quickthinks, the Extremities of Brute Justice, the Living Liquid or the Manipulator)

It seems more likely that Alexander will be the standard future raids adhere too, while the oddities of ARR and 1.0 content would be forgotten

[technole]

From Yoship's Q&A at Fanfest they are still deciding how they want high-end raid in 4.0 to be. Whether we get back to one difficulty, again with two, or they change it again.

Part of the lesser weight on the Alex Savage gear issue by many raiders is that it's the same looking gear as the normal version just the weapon is the capstone. Although for Creator, the Savage version of the gear isn't dyable this time, and just has some different shades and features on the bodies. Someone did ask at Fanfest to make it dyable at-least. It is a topic that does come up from time-to-time. So that is why there isn't a lot of weight behind the gear aside from ilvl. Granted for now, unless you savage raid, you won't have any i270 gear.

[Blood-Aki]

Gear is as good as a title tbh, if you glamour. People will see it and know you cleared it.

But it does feel lazy anyway to not have a title.

Not at all, just because i see it, i won't really know you cleared it, as there are content buyers with sellers giving descriptions like "all loot is yours" and they know nothing about the fight, but they got the gear for it! so even that does not work. Titles aren't much anyway but that certainly isn't as good as it.

[ErryK]

The minion is a normal mode drop.

Talking about savage rewards in general; A4S gave a mount, A8S gave a minion, A12S gave a mount.

You're funny

Thanks, I guess? I mean that wasn't my intention.

This mount is horrible compared to the gobtank (A4S) which was pretty nice.
The gear is irrevelant since non-raiders will get the same ilvl in a few weeks.
No, a title for people that invest themselves into Savage is needed. Cause actually there is not any reward worth it to do raids. Most people are basically raiding for the challenge. Wanna improve the raid scene ? Give'em better rewards for the time and efforts they put in raiding.

1. That's a subjective thing, so it's not really something that can be said by everyone. People might like x mount, but others might like y mount more. Can't please everyone I guess.
2. Gear is about as irrelevant as glamour is... so not really irrelevant.
3. A title is not needed when the reward is overcoming the challenge, for most. For the very few, there's the gear. And, unlike Coil, you get a mount or a minion from the final fight. Coil rewarded raiders with a title, because there was no mount/minion equivalent. Now there's no need for a title because it is rewarded via NM, with the mount/minion as the savage reward. It just feels like you're asking for more for the sake of having an incentive to raid, but if you don't want to raid otherwise, why are you raiding anyways?