RIP Minion Collectors :(

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

So SE just made a change that motivated a larger portion of the FFXIV playerbase to try out PVP. It creates shorter queue times and more competition. Apparently it still will take effort, but it won't be impossible to gain after a few months. This benefits everyone. Why all the spam? If you're not happy, voice your opinion in a more productive way that is more likely to give you a result you want, as the OP of this thread did: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ve-PVP-Rewards

I mean, if you actually want to help your case, that is. /shrug

It's actually a bit of the opposite. You literally have a choice now to compete in the Feast and place top 10, or simply wait til the season is over, and put in the very-likely-lesser effort to achieve the same thing. The time-release is simply to not discourage those currently competing for it, but effectively, SE has just said "Climb the mountain now, or walk the trails later. The same prize will be awarded regardless of the method or effort chosen." Everyone has a chance to get the minion now, and that's truly great, but with what's been laid out, why should anyone bother to compete for it now?

And as stated before, I'm personally not all that interested in the minion. I still don't even know what it is.

oh man look at all the limp epeens

Perhaps that was intended to be funny or a nice dig at the people who voiced legit protest to the idea, and with good reason. But as it is, it adds little to the conversation and really only reflects poorly of you.

[KasumiCascade]

It's actually a bit of the opposite. You literally have a choice now to compete in the Feast and place top 10, or simply wait til the season is over, and put in the very-likely-lesser effort to achieve the same thing. The time-release is simply to not discourage those currently competing for it, but effectively, SE has just said "Climb the mountain now, or walk the trails later. The same prize will be awarded regardless of the method or effort chosen." Everyone has a chance to get the minion now, and that's truly great, but with what's been laid out, why should anyone bother to compete for it now?

And as stated before, I'm personally not all that interested in the minion. I still don't even know what it is.

I somewhat agree. We will need to know what exactly the requirements will be for the Minion post-Season 3, to know exactly how much effort will be needed. Granted, an earring doesn't feel like an adequate replacement, but players will still need to place in the Top 100 for the Mount(s). And a preview of the rewards would be nice too. My complaint was pretty much that very few people (if any) seemed to be coming up with any further solutions to this, and instead spamming the forums incoherently in some sort of attempt to make a point(?)

What kind of requirement could SE put on the Minions post-Season 3 that would make you feel less disappointed?

(Thank you for a more level-headed response, btw)

[SpookyGhost]

SE has just said "Climb the mountain now, or walk the trails later. The same prize will be awarded regardless of the method or effort chosen."

Welcome to literally everything in the game.

[NargaHuntress]

Perhaps that was intended to be funny or a nice dig at the people who voiced legit protest to the idea, and with good reason. But as it is, it adds little to the conversation and really only reflects poorly of you.

i have entered my thoughts many times to just have the reawards obtainable at a later date through the same means of feast ranking. but others have shown nothing but disdain for it even pvpers dont like it. so i am only to conculde that they only want it for their ego. ah ah dont give me that crap of no no we love pvp otherwise cuz most pvpers ive seen who do pvp do it for the rewads. i wasent here for fold but i was there for frontlines and i played the frik out of it then when there wasent any rewards, didn't even want crappy glam items i didnt even want. what was so bad about placing in a future season and getting old season rewards along with the new ones. nothing. so now you see where my joke comes from and i stand by it.

[KuroganeAre]

At least make it Feast only rewards. Content needs to have some exclusivity to it to try to get people encouraged to do it, you can't just give away everything to people just because want it

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Welcome to literally everything in the game.

Yeah, been that way for a long time. And now PvP as well, apparently. . . I'm starting to run out of reasons for wanting to do anything and be proficient at it.

Well, Tera hits PS4 next year. I enjoy playing that too. . .

[NargaHuntress]

i wonder if they will do the same for the helldogo. ive wanted the hellhound as a mount sence i 1st did void ark.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

i have entered my thoughts many times to just have the reawards obtainable at a later date through the same means of feast ranking. but others have shown nothing but disdain for it even pvpers dont like it. so i am only to conculde that they only want it for their ego. ah ah dont give me that crap of no no we love pvp otherwise cuz most pvpers ive seen who do pvp do it for the rewads. i wasent here for fold but i was there for frontlines and i played the frik out of it then when there wasent any rewards, didn't even want crappy glam items i didnt even want. what was so bad about placing in a future season and getting old season rewards along with the new ones. nothing. so now you see where my joke comes from and i stand by it.

It's not an ego thing, at least for me it isn't. I actually, truly love the PvP in this game. I even like Shatter (which apparently the majority hate). It's fine that you stand by the joke, but sadly, the joke is really on all of us whenever SE points to a mountain and offers a prize for reaching the top, then says you can climb it now or walk a trail later and still get the same reward. . . Months from now when people are less willing to queue for the Feast due to lessened incentives, burnout, and no real motivation, what will they offer then?

. . . then later in an easier way?

[Frowny]

"Minion collection" has to be one of the most selfish excuses I've seen for someone to demand they also get a better chance at an exclussive reward. While at it, why don't we ask we get the art/screenshot/etc. contest rewards as achievements too? I happen to be an earring collector! It's unfair that we get a limited time chance at those!

I can see why they came up with these prizes. It's meant to be a cool thing for the winners of the season to show around, something for other people to say "oooh, look at that guy!" and it's a fair reward for the winners of the entire season of a pvp mode the devs meant to be competitive. And this request is a display of how selfish this community can be. I'm really disappointed.

At least when I check, the winners appear to be the same handful of people every time (ie. the top players each season have repetition). I understand PvP rewards, but PvP right now seems to be on life-support.

[Jim_Berry]

Yeah, I stopped collecting Minions and Mounts once PvP allowed access to these. I don't PvP, so I'll never be able to complete the collection.