RIP Minion Collectors :(

[MihaelB]

your target audience for PvP is already close to none - baiting them with minions with x-wins won't make them miraculously go PvP now as seen in this thread.

In a simplistic summary, it's boring and it has long queues adding to the boredom. Smacking people for 10 minutes over and over and over in the same map is not 'fun' by any means to me and I assume a large majority of players. Other games like League of Legends have billions poured into smacking people on different maps, you just can't compete when League is free and has pretty much 0 queue time.

I don't come on FFXIV to smack people, I assume others don't too from the comments and general activity we see from the 20min+ queues (people are organising times to queue together just to even get in), yet we see continual PVP updates for dead content they keep trying to resuscitate when it's already stopped breathing.

[JaydeDancer]

we have come to a conclusion to make the following changes.

• Add another method to obtain this minion
  By completing a new achievement objective which is planned to be introduced in Patch 3.5, players will be able to obtain the same minion.

As a minion collector, I really appreciate this, because some of us may not be as skilled in PVP as others. But I can totally see people complaining about "de-valuing" the minion by making it available elsewhere. I realize that you have probably already finalized this decision, but perhaps in addition to the earring, would it be possible to make The Feast minion a different color than the one being released elsewhere? (Kind of like the Grand Company Mamets) That way the minion obtained during The Feast won't be "de-valued" but people who aren't as good at PVP can still obtain a minion with the same shape and design, just a different color.

You guys are awesome. Thank you for all of your hard work.

[Aviars]

would it be possible to make The Feast minion a different color than the one being released elsewhere?

It would be different, and therefore the collectors can't catch em all.

[Noutaja]

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An incredibly bad decision to give up on what you decided, right away as some greedy "must have it all or we die" collector guys comes up to you crying, you immediately back up on your decision. That is not the SE I want to see. I am very disappointed, lets see what happens to POTD prizes (if there ever will be any, prolly never will because of this scandal) when PvPers come crying after this marvelous example. GG. Please have the balls to stand behind your decisions, this is spineless. Not kool.

Imo you should encourage people to do different things for different prizes, instead this happens. Some people already quit feast just because of this decision.
I do not care about the prizes at all myself, I could care less, same goes for the rankings, but seeing PvP suffer from something like this is not nice. Quite infact the very opposite.

You need to step it up bigtime regarding PvP in general. I am waiting for something great.
I love you SE you are the best, but you need to do something to fix the negative impact you caused on PvP. It feels like you just cast Doom on us.

[ErryK]

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You don't care, yet you posted a 202 word reply about stuff you don't care about... ????

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What is your point, exactly? Are you saying SE can't manage and fix many errors/situations simultaneously? They're a business that, technically, has been running for 74 years (Enix being founded 41 years ago, Square 33 years ago, combined for 74 years of experience), I'm sure they know what they're doing and what they intend to do for the years to come.

And, personally, I wouldn't take advice from an individual who wished to return to 1.0 times purely because other people had an interest in paying SE for glamour.

[Noutaja]

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Dude. Obviously I need to explain in other words. I care about pvp, mainly the feast, and am not happy with the negative impact all of this had on our small pvp/feast community. People in the top 100 quit the feast just because of this whole minion thing, and what Zhexos announced. Thats called having a negative impact, especially on our small community of players. That is all I care about cause I want the feast to stay alive. I pay to play the feast.
People didn't like our rewards getting removed like this, and they quit just to show that this is not ok. You cant just promise us special top 10 rewards and then suddenly remove them when some collectors come crying that they can't have them all now. Imo feast staying alive is much more important than the rewards themselves (or any freaking minion in general), this is why I had to reply. I personally do not care about the rewards at all, I care about the feast.
Get it?

[ErryK]

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A minion being removed is not gonna kill Feast. SE is looking out for themselves, especially if this was a big an outcry as it did get a response from SE, and I'm pretty sure the people who would want the minion are as sizeable as the PvP community. But in my opinion, there is no point to be being all doom-and-gloom about Feast because of a reward change. You still have the mount/titles which will attract players. Rewards are still there to provide incentive for others to continue playing the Feast. Sounds like a lot of drama over a non-issue.

[Noutaja]

Imagine if they removed our mount rewards, or told right now, that you can buy them in a cash shop afterwards or get it from some achievement. Everyone would be pissed off and would quit the feast just to show that this is NOT ok. Hopefully SE does NOT make the same mistake twice, and tell us suddenly when the seasons is supposed to thrive, that our rewards have been removed or made less special in some way. This WILL make people quit, you cant back up on your promises like that after they are made. It is the principle idea.

A big important thing (pvp/feast), was sacrificed in the name of something as silly as freaking minions. Whats next, mounts? SE is flushing our pvp community down the toilet with false promises on the stupidest of things.

Edit: You are completely trying to ignore what Im saying in your post above ErryK. You cant make false promises and suddenly take it all back. That is not ok. It DOES hurt the feast, people have quit in the top 100. That is called hurting our community. It is way too small and it needs to grow, this is not the right way, the exact opposite of that. Exclusive rewards are exactly what we need to gain more participants. If the mounts are made avaiable to others too or even removed, It could aswell be the end of daily feast pops. Our community is very small and that makes it fragile. Believe me this is not the way to go.
Edit2: The whole idea was to make feast more alive, and make it grow. They almost failed it with this sudden announcement thing, gladly the mounts are the same as before so feast wont die just yet. But make the mounts less special (or even remove them), and yeah. Who knows what will happen. It is obvious the effect will be severe.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Time/schedule conflicts already making progression tougher, and now rewards just get time-released later? I didn't even want the minion, and accepted that I'd probably not have the time to put in to attempt reaching and staying in the top 100, so I was fine missing out on the mount.

But now it's going to become a participation award? Well, guess I'll skip Season 4 and just wait to "achieve" it later.