RIP Minion Collectors :(

[LineageRazor]

Dear SE,

I couldn't play legacy because my computer wasn't good enough. I don't have a legacy chocobo in my collection. Please add a way for non-legacy players to get the legacy chocobo. It is not fair that a very specific group of players got this mount, and I would really like my chance to get it. Please add all the event items to the cash shop too! This would make collecting so much more fun, I can just take out my mom's credit card and be at 100% =^,^=. Please don't make me learn how to play the game or do any hard work to get any of these very nice mounts and minions!

Yours truly,
A concerned Millennial

Interesting that you should mention hard work in the same paragraph as a collectable that is no longer possible to get no matter how hard you work.

Kinda takes the wind out of your attempted mockery! Oh, well, they can't all be winners.

[TiramisuMacaron]

Speaking of wind........ Whoooooooooossssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. So much salt didn't even see the subject change.

For people who are saying things like, "If we start this season we will have no chance!". I started halfway through last season with minimal PvP experience (random FL games) and got 12th on the rankings. At 1300 rating I picked up whm (never played it outside of leveling), dropped to 700, and still made it all back up. If I didn't get totally consumed by work for the last 2 months of the season, I could have been top 10. Oh well, guess this is the way the world works now.

[LineageRazor]

Speaking of wind........ Whoooooooooossssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Nah, nothing went over my head - but it's pretty clear that this entire thread went over yours. None of your examples had anything to do with each other, or with this thread - it comes across as though you're saying that if someone complains about anything, they must be a millennial!

This thread is not complaining about difficulty, but about exclusivity. If you've read the thread, you'd know the OP is gamely giving PvP their best shot, in spite of having little or no PvP experience prior, and getting piles of abuse from teammates for the effort. Does that really sound like an "entitle millennial" to you? And even if the OP succeeds, against all odds, he will be one of only ten collectors in his data server that even has a shot at keeping their collection complete. Once this season is over, any collector that didn't make the cut is finished, all their hard work to keep their collection complete undone. And, more likely than not, NO collector will manage to snag both minions, on any data server. Even if they manage to get into the top ten for one bracket, how likely are they to manage both?

So, yeah, your post was a complete failure to troll. Do a bit of research, maybe actually read the thread next time, and maybe you'll do better!

[solracht]

What about the gaelkitten cap that you only get for going to fanfest irl which isn't even in your country? Sure not a minion or mount but still a ingame item that I want and which is limited in some way.

Haven't been able to find the quote, but I'm fairly certain they said the gaelicap is joining the rewards offered from the lodestone contests.

Also while I don’t think the Gaelicap should exist if it’s limited to only fanfest (and I don’t think it will be), please keep in mind that there is a world of a difference between “limited in some way” and “limited in the same way as the Feast mount”. Up until now, all exclusive rewards have fallen into one of the following categories:

• Rewards locked behind some sort of skill/time check. See: Raid/trial mounts, old pvp mounts, etc. While most people can't meet the skill/time requirements to obtain these right away, they are not limited in availability nor tied to a time window, so everyone has the option to wait for content to be nerfed or to slowly work towards them.
  
  
• Rewards available for a limited time. See: yokais, CE minions, legacy mount, etc. Up until now, obtaining this type of rewards has taken no skill whatsoever and they are not limited in availability. As long as you're actively playing the game while the rewards are being offered, you are able to get them.
  
  
• Rewards limited in availability. See: ahriman chokers, bluebird earrings, contest barding, etc. While these are only given to a limited number of players, they aren't tied to a time window. The contests happen many times every year and the rewards so far have remained the same (with new ones slowly being added), and as such you have multiple chances to go after them.

The way I see it, people (myself included) are bothered by the Feast mount/minion because it combines all three categories when no other reward has ever done so. It's locked behind a skill check, only available for a limited time, and only rewarded to a very limited number of players. There is not a single reward in this game (certainly not a mount/minion) as exclusive as this one. Even looking back at the White Raven earrings, they still aren't as exclusive as the Feast rewards because there was not a limited number of them. Even things like first-print OST minions only fall under two categories (limited time & availability), but not all three (no skill/time check).

If everyone who won x number of matches during the third Feast season was awarded the rewards, if there was a non-seasonal way to obtain them later down the road (Wolf Marks), or if the rewards were the same every season, then fewer people would be against it. Any of those options would be much more in line with the way the game has done exclusivity until now.

Lastly and just to reiterate, like I said in my previous post, I'm not against exclusivity. If it were up to me, raid mounts would see their droprates reduced to 50% during the 24man patch and then to 1% with the release of the next raid (if not outright removed). Trial mounts would never see their droprates increased, and so on. In a game where these things are done, rewards like the Feast ones would not be out of place.

However, this is simply not the game we're playing. As it stands, the Feast mount and minion have no place in XIV, so I only ask for consistency - for Square-Enix to keep it more in line with the design they have been pushing for the past years. Alternatively, they could give us an indication that they’re going to do many more things like this in the future (especially in PVE), that’d be fine with me too.

[TDHCincy]

If everyone who won x number of matches during the third Feast season was awarded the rewards, if there was a non-seasonal way to obtain them later down the road (Wolf Marks), or if the rewards were the same every season, then fewer people would be against it. Any of those options would be much more in line with the way the game has done exclusivity until now.

This sums up how I feel.
I collect mounts and minions and I know it will be impossible for me to get them this season in PVP. I would like some option down the road to be able to obtain them.

[NargaHuntress]

Not having a mount or minion won't kill you, trust me.

and not having it be ONE TIME ONLY wont kill pvpers right? right.

anyway pvpers need to have something yes. i just dont like that is one time only. like SE you made a mount for only 1000 people in your game. why?

im no colletor but i just would like a shot at it again in the future. and yes im doing this season and doing well so far i think.

[Praesul]

and not having it be ONE TIME ONLY wont kill pvpers right? right.

anyway pvpers need to have something yes. i just dont like that is one time only. like SE you made a mount for only 1000 people in your game. why?

im no colletor but i just would like a shot at it again in the future. and yes im doing this season and doing well so far i think.

They ALREADY added armor that's exclusive, but nobody cared. The thing is, you guys don't have a problem with exclusivity, you only have a problem when it involves something that YOU want. Exclusive armor? Meh, I don't think it looks good, fine by me. Wait, a mount and minion I can't have? I WON'T STAND FOR THIS!

[solracht]

They ALREADY added armor that's exclusive, but nobody cared. The thing is, you guys don't have a problem with exclusivity, you only have a problem when it involves something that YOU want. Exclusive armor? Meh, I don't think it looks good, fine by me. Wait, a mount and minion I can't have? I WON'T STAND FOR THIS!

Originally, people assumed Feast rewards would be the same every season. Had things been this way, there would be nowhere near the level of exclusivity that we're seeing now, as it would've given people multiple chances to go after the rewards. In case you've forgotten: we didn't even know Feast rewards would significantly change every two seasons until back in August, and we we didn't even know what the season 2/3 rewards actually looked like until right before season 2 ended. It's pretty understandable that fewer people complained back then, even ignoring that yes, people do seem to care about mounts/minions more than about armor.

For the record, I don't think PVP armor should be a timed exclusive reward either if it's something that's changing every season. Not when all the other high-end rewards in the game become easily obtainable as time goes on.

[NargaHuntress]

They ALREADY added armor that's exclusive, but nobody cared.

don't clump me up with these ppl. oh i CARED a hell of a lot when they added armour. Im i big glamour whore, i make anything look good on my character, ANYTHING. i wanted those items so dam back yet i sucked ass last 2 seasons. now i will never have iy fucking ever! im pissed about it i shun ppl who have it on my server. THERE ISNT ANY ARM GEAR FOR HEALERS THAT LOOK LIKE DECENT PLATE ARMOUR BUT THAT ONE GOD DAMIT! GIVE IT TO ME!

[Lunavi]

Wow... SE REALLY wants to push people into PvP, huh? I am glad that I am not a mount or pet collector as that would've removed my goal in the game.