Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
Ok, lets compare the effort level.
Which cannot be done without also comparing the innate endowment of people. Alex Savage requires significantly more effort to be cleared by people with a lower attention span or people with slower reaction times. A person who only has one hand needs to put in significantly more effort than someone with two. A person with frail bones and weak muscles will have to put in more effort to lift the same a healthy person can without putting in any additional effort.

This is why some people consider something "faceroll" while others find it "mind numbingly hard". In that, you are both technically right - for the slow and dumb, Savage will require far, far more effort than the relic. For the talented, the relic will require more effort.