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    Ever since 2.0, Relics always received the same ilevel as the best savage raid weapons:

    i115 High Allagan (T9) -> i115 Relic upgrade (3 months later)
    i135 Dreadwyrm (T13) -> i135 Relic upgrade (3 months later)
    i210 Gordian (A4S) -> i210 Relic Upgrade (3 months later)


    However, raiders complained that weapons dropped from savage should be higher ilevel than relic weapons since far more skill is involved (and sometimes even takes way more time.) There was very little incentive to raid; especially with the story no longer tied to savage difficulty. And thus we received the previous raid tier:


    i245 Midan (A8S) -> i240 Relic Upgrade (3 months later)
    i275 Alexandrian (A12S) -> i270 Relic Upgrade (3 months later)


    As far as this patch is concerned, Sophia Weapons become obsolete in 7 more days. Clearing A12 Normal seven weeks in a row gives you the seven Alex Gears you need to buy your Micro Tomestone. Which let's you purchase your i260 weapon for 1,000 Scripture. Considering how easy it is to obtain this i260 Weapon, there's no reason the Relic won't be i260.
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    Last edited by Galactimus; 11-01-2016 at 08:32 AM.

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    Mike Aettir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    Ever since 2.0, Relics always received the same ilevel as the best savage raid weapons:

    i115 High Allagan (T9) -> i115 Relic upgrade (3 months later)
    i135 Dreadwyrm (T13) -> i135 Relic upgrade (3 months later)
    i210 Gordian (A4S) -> i210 Relic Upgrade (3 months later)
    To add to that, you can include Zenith weapons (or +1 as they were back then), when T5 dropped i90 weapons. It is a bit of a unique case though.
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    270 or 65 at the very least, any lower and they really aren't worth it, as being similar to shire weapons make them not worth the bother. Not to mention you can upgrade shire weapons. but as people have said the pattern does seem they usually match the highest raid weapons, so i'll assume that is where they will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    270 or 65 at the very least, any lower and they really aren't worth it, as being similar to shire weapons make them not worth the bother. Not to mention you can upgrade shire weapons. but as people have said the pattern does seem they usually match the highest raid weapons, so i'll assume that is where they will be.
    Except when Lore Weapons were arriving,, relics got upgraded to 230.

    So I don't see why anyone is expecting it to be different since only raiders currently have Shire Weapons, let alone upgraded ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron View Post
    Except when Lore Weapons were arriving,, relics got upgraded to 230.

    So I don't see why anyone is expecting it to be different since only raiders currently have Shire Weapons, let alone upgraded ones
    Raiders are the only ones that actually need the weapons, as 255 weapons are more then enough for any other content, but relics are a serious grind fest, and people aren't going to be motivated much (unless they just really want something to do) if the ilvl isn't up to par with a much easier to get, buyable weapon. (everyone will have a shire weapon in the next 2 weeks due to reaching 7 gears)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
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    That's also only assuming you only have one job you want to gear up, though. I have 8 jobs I want to gear, and only three of them have relics. Both the relic step and the Shire weapon are gonna be hella useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Raiders are the only ones that actually need the weapons, as 255 weapons are more then enough for any other content, but relics are a serious grind fest, and people aren't going to be motivated much (unless they just really want something to do) if the ilvl isn't up to par with a much easier to get, buyable weapon. (everyone will have a shire weapon in the next 2 weeks due to reaching 7 gears)
    But that's how it's always been. Relics are never "worth" it in that sense.
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    Anima upgrade is 260 at-best, it'll probably be a short upgrade like the 230 was to reward those who got the 240 step done.

    The new PoTD weapons are i255. However Sophia i255 weapons are still a good investment and to gear your alt jobs, or to get into Savage at-least. Plus seeing how many out there still have last tier's i240 or worse, less. Can't say it'll be outdated considering most of the normal population doesn't even have beyond 240.

    It is true we raiders don't "need" the anima considering every A10S clear weekly is another shire tome weapon for the raid. Then clearing A11S regularly for the Gobdip to upgrade the Shire weapon to 270. So the anima step is just a glamour at-best or "better" sub-stats until you get the tome/gobdip upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Anima upgrade is 260 at-best, it'll probably be a short upgrade like the 230 was to reward those who got the 240 step done.

    The new PoTD weapons are i255. However Sophia i255 weapons are still a good investment and to gear your alt jobs, or to get into Savage at-least. Plus seeing how many out there still have last tier's i240 or worse, less. Can't say it'll be outdated considering most of the normal population doesn't even have beyond 240.

    It is true we raiders don't "need" the anima considering every A10S clear weekly is another shire tome weapon for the raid. Then clearing A11S regularly for the Gobdip to upgrade the Shire weapon to 270. So the anima step is just a glamour at-best or "better" sub-stats until you get the tome/gobdip upgrade.
    Its nice though for Healers still. You get your Accuracy without needing to overmeld, forcing you to hold onto green i250 pieces, when eventually you should be at least 260 from shire + raids. :O

    I only use my sophia weapon in expert since ACC doesn't matter there.
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