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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu89 View Post
    You don't need Piety or Acc to be a good healer so there both useless.. there is NO rule in the book that said a heal HAS TO DPS at any time, if your DPS is low in raid, then your DPS need to get there shit together and do there ONLY JOB and DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Healers are in the best situation for Accuracy. We can meld our heart out to cap then stop melding. No excess. No shortage. Dps often can't upgrade to new pieces because it would require them to fall below the accuracy requirements.

    Main Healers don't need the extra piety or to touch accuracy, so long as their cohealer meets the requirements if they don't want to dps. The main healer should be practically solo healing since every GCD and OGCD they have should be used to heal, mitigate and precast heals. This should leave the off healer DPSing 90% of the fight and be dealing significant DPS, somewhat near your off tank. :]
    and that how i see it, i do 95-99% of the healing on WHM, only time i DPS is if my aoe hits the boss..The only healer is the OH that can be DPSing if they want to, but not all healers can Solo heal a raid, so int ill you know for sure the Main healer is fine without your heals Acc is a NO GO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu89 View Post
    You don't need Piety or Acc to be a good healer so there both useless..
    I beg to differ about piety, it's no more "useless" then DET or acc on a non sch, keep in mind the more mp you have the more you regen when you use shroud/aether, and the longer you last during intense healing moments, and when you do dps you have mp to spare, it is far from useless. but since you said you never dps that is why you don't run into healing issue, because you are not expending additional MP for DPS, which means even having 12k mp, you likely won't have mp issues.

    as for choice there really is no right or wrong answer i tend to like SS the most and then PIE and det as a left over, since my mains are WHM and AST acc is pretty useless to me.
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    The problem with pushing for accuracy on cleric stance and not melding is that energy drain can miss. I use it outside of cleric stance to recover mp..
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    What i have on my WHM for melds (Main healer in raids):

    Left Side: Acc > Pie
    Right Side: Vit > Acc (Cant meld pie on right side because of vitality melds)
    And when i have enough acc and pie is capped on a piece i meld crit in every slot left. Not a huge fan of det and ss. Det is usually just a very minor buff and spellspeeds full potential can only be reached when chaincasting like a blackmage, but a healer obviously doesnt chaincast and 1-2 extra regen ticks over a span of a minute is never required.
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    If raiding in Savage and will contribute DPS: Accuracy to cap

    If Scholar: CRT wherever possible, Spell Speed after that

    If WHM/AST: I would recommend SpS>CRT

    I would not recommend DET.

    Explanations:
    Accuracy: Healers get no accuracy on equipment, if you are DPSing in savage, you'll waste a lot of MP
    Critical Hit: Scholars get a bonus of a double-shield on Adloquium that crit's. Spell Speed does not affect your pet, so Crit bumps up to more powerful for your pets heals as well.
    Spell Speed: This is both the best stat for upping your heals and upping your DPS as a caster (only reason SMN favours DET is because the attacks by your pet count as auto attacks and SPS doesn't help them, otherwise SPS > CRT > DET for all casters DPS)
    Determination: This has very little benefit to casters, especially healers. It will more predictably up your heals than a CRT, but the difference is something like... with +200 DET you will have a 50% chance to do 1.5% more healing power, and with +200 CRT you will have a 4.5% chance to do ~55% more healing power.
    Piety: This is great for progressing through content, but most healers have a lot of Piety on gear and have lots of skills to get back their MP. However, a "sweet spot" sort-to-speak is at 16k MP, where MP regened per tick = MP cost per cure/phsyick.

    Sources: Various testing through 3.x, discussions on /r/reddit with other healers testing, discussions on sub-forum healers with other healers testing, and with a discussion with Dervy

    PS: My fairly rough stat weights (IIRC) are:
    Scholar
    WD: between 6 and 9
    MND: 1
    CRT: 0.3
    SPS: 0.25
    DET: 0.08

    WHM/AST
    WD: between 6 and 9
    MND: 1
    CRT: 0.25
    SPS: 0.3
    DET: 0.08
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    As people have mentioned, it depends on what healer you are.

    Generally, the healer melds are looked at subjectively because of their minimal impact. If you dps at all, meld ACC to cap (atm that is at 593) which will require basically all 100% slots unless you use crafted pieces. If not, then you can choose from Crit, PIE, SpS, and Det. Personally, I have PIE till comfortable > Crit > Det > SpS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    The problem with pushing for accuracy on cleric stance and not melding is that energy drain can miss. I use it outside of cleric stance to recover mp..
    This is why I suggest a scholar always meet ACC, even if they don't DPS. It royally stinks to have Energy Drain miss when you really need it. Remember, bad parties, newbies, etc., do happen. With 4.0's combat and skill revision, I secretly hope they change that for Energy Drain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    This is why I suggest a scholar always meet ACC, even if they don't DPS. It royally stinks to have Energy Drain miss when you really need it. Remember, bad parties, newbies, etc., do happen. With 4.0's combat and skill revision, I secretly hope they change that for Energy Drain.
    I feel like any issue with Energy Drain is going to stay around as long as it is still tied with SMN, unfortunately. While I would love to have it miss less on my SCH when I need it, any buff to it would buff it for SMN unless it was a Job-only trait, which we have no idea if that is possible or not.
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    I'm a main WHM, so for my main healing equips I meld Piety and SPS - piety directly raises my MP management tools since Assize is % based, and SpS makes for good regen ticks and fast healing for when I have to deal with Cintamani-like raid damage alone. Also, with a big MP pull and some spell speed, you'll be the a machine Holy bomber in roulettes.

    Or just meld acc in everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Main Healers don't need the extra piety
    I don't know how good your group is, but oh boy do I need that extra Piety to get some more Raises going... Piety is probably the best stat for healers in progression parties.
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    Last edited by Fevelle; 10-31-2016 at 07:17 PM.

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