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    Player
    Pondera's Avatar
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    Venusiel Arcadia
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    Siren
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    Culinarian Lv 70

    Rage over Sophia

    Wow, this boss got me in a bad head space. I just need a space to rant and rave and carry on, keeping profanity and caps lock usage to a minimum, so...here we go.

    What kind of sadist in Square Enix came up with this?! This is the most god awfully hard boss encounter I have ever seen! Tank busters DESTROY you instantly, though, a polite mentor instructed me that I have to pop TWO CDs just to survive it....insanity... I mean, I have no idea what was wrong with me tonight but I couldn't even acquire threat on the demiurges OR SOPHIA when said helpful mentor tried to get me to try my hand at main tanking. Somewhere along the line I forgot how to do this? I've been tanking since Burning Crusade! This should be second nature by now! WHAT HAS THIS BOSS DONE TO ME!?

    I remember when I used to play this game for fun. Now it feels like a form of some kind of punishment that they inflict on people down in Guantanamo bay. "You'll tell us where your base is, or we'll stick you in another Sophia Ex group, worm!" I'd gladly swap over to do something, anything else, but that Sophic Blade for DRK looks REALLY cool, and I see people running around all the time with Sophic weapons, so I assume it must be SOMEHOW possible. And everytime I see this, it fills me with a jealous rage. Are there FCs that relax by punching out cthulu and looting his corpse, or am I just having seriously bad luck with the raid finder?

    And no... I don't think I need assistance with understanding the overall fight. I know what I'm SUPPOSED to do with Thunders and Aeros, the clones, the add phase... the scale tipping part I'm a little fuzzy on... and the stacking light and dark circles is simple enough. I even understand the tank buster phase, but for some reason, it just won't click. I'm up to my 9th wipe and third group attempting this. So, if you must post on my live journal whining... please help my state of mind about this. Post something funny or ragey.
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 90
    To be honest this is my first time tanking at new primal (I only did tanking when old primal goes to DF) and I don't have any problem to be MT/OT. As PLD I only use Sheltron, as WAR I use Inner Beast, as DRK I use... Only some defense cd, but still survived.
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    To be honest this is my first time tanking at new primal (I only did tanking when old primal goes to DF) and I don't have any problem to be MT/OT. As PLD I only use Sheltron, as WAR I use Inner Beast, as DRK I use... Only some defense cd, but still survived.
    Hate to change the topic BUT HOW the heck are you flexing like that in game in your sig, how do you do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    Hate to change the topic BUT HOW the heck are you flexing like that in game in your sig, how do you do that?
    It's the new pose for highlander after hildibrand took our unique pose
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 85
    Aside from maybe Bismark it's probably the easiest EX fight at release in HW though. And as long as you are decently geared you do not need 2 cooldowns for the tankbuster.
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    Mizu Ka
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 80
    the Sophia EX fight is laughably simple.

    for the tank crunch, when the boss is glowing with the green aura, the off tank should hit provoke, and you should pop a cooldown, more often than not, the cleave won't kill, it's the magic based AA that follows that does it.

    If the cleave kills, it's on you for no cooldown and or heals for you being at less than 75% HP.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    This fight has the lowest healing requirements I have ever seen for a primal. Tanks provoke after taking one hit, dps can survive AOEs with just a single heal, no real cleaves and has a generous recovery rate. If your party can mechanic without any vuln stacks the fight becomes a whole new level of easy.
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    This fight has the lowest healing requirements I have ever seen for a primal. Tanks provoke after taking one hit, dps can survive AOEs with just a single heal, no real cleaves and has a generous recovery rate. If your party can mechanic without any vuln stacks the fight becomes a whole new level of easy.
    Nope they will still die to 2 and a half Cintamani casts (at least they did with min ilv when this was released, or maybe I'm misjudging the damage because of all the weaknesses from dying to simple mechanics and vulnerability stacks).


    On the topic: when it released I thought to myself I would never clear the damn fight, but now I can solo-heal the thing no problem. It will all become easier as long as you keep trying to memorize and improve.
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    Last edited by Fevelle; 10-28-2016 at 03:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Nope they will still die to 2 and a half Cintamani casts (at least they did with min ilv when this was released, or maybe I'm misjudging the damage because of all the weaknesses from dying to simple mechanics and vulnerability stacks).


    On the topic: when it released I thought to myself I would never clear the damn fight, but now I can solo-heal the thing no problem. It will all become easier as long as you keep trying to memorize and improve.
    Its 6kish (DoM) - 8kish DoW before stacks. DPS and Healers usually have around 17-20k HP. DoM survive pretty easily since it take only 1-2k healing for them to survive. DoWs like Drg/Mnk need only an Indom to survive (or a Divine seals + medica or a Medica + SCH/SMN Virus.) Everyone by the end of it, will have very low health, but AOEs are very easy to deal with in the amount of time they give you. :O
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 10-28-2016 at 03:45 PM.

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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Its 6kish (DoM) - 8kish DoW before stacks. DPS and Healers usually have around 17-20k HP. DoM survive pretty easily since it take only 1-2k healing for them to survive. DoWs like Drg/Mnk need only an Indom to survive (or a Divine seals + medica or a Medica + SCH/SMN Virus.) Everyone by the end of it, will have very low health, but AOEs are very easy to deal with in the amount of time they give you. :O
    With ilv235 I had barely 15K HP, DPS had 16K. With vulnerability stacks the damage goes up to nearly 9K-hit, not saying anything about weaknesses. So yeah, you're wrong. Also learning parties are NOT farm parties where you can let everyone get to low health because they probably know how to handle the next mechanic: you're running against time to get them to near full so they won't die to the next Thunder III.

    In my opinion Sophia is not that easy. It is easier than Thordan, but I'd learn Sephirot or Ravana any day over learning Sophia.
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    Last edited by Fevelle; 10-29-2016 at 01:15 AM.

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