Rage over Sophia

[Caitlyn]

Sophia is Shiva 3.0: Both fights were awesome, nice to farm and easier than other primals before. While Thordan is one of the most difficult fight, Sophia is more forgiving:

• If you die in the 2nd phase, you re still alive (kinda)
• If you fall down, you can still get a raise
• If someone fails to one mechanic, it wont wipe the group (for the most part)
• The phases and mechanics are easy enough
• With a skilled tank and healer, solo-tank and solo-heal are possible
• Not a real DPS-check here

Sure, like any other primal fight, you can mess up things. But many mistakes can be fixed by other players. I m a more casual player, but I managed to get the kill with the second partyfinder-random-group. I ve expected something more difficult.

PS: I want Sophias dress >: D

[LunarEmerald]

Hey, new player here. Why people play extreme primals, what to gain and how affects endgame play?.

Sophia is a quick way to get a significantly better weapon.

[Radacci]

Hey, new player here. Why people play extreme primals, what to gain and how affects endgame play?.

Like Lunar said. you can get ilv255 weps, which is the best you can get at the moment, outside of doing Alexander savage. If you can get some farm parties, you can get ilv255 wep for all jobs, in a day or few; compared to it taking 7 weeks to get Alexandrian Gears, to buy micro-tome to buy ilv 260 shire weapon (or you can get micro-tomes from A10S. you can also get upgrade material from A10S to make Shire wep->ilv270. outside of Savage, you can't make 270 wep, yet)
But at the moment, sophia weapon is basically a requirement for starting savage content (at least for DPS jobs)

[ServerCollaps]

jeez, its called "extreme" for some reasons >_>

[Culfinrandir]

I've only just started doing EX Primals (except the pseudo-mandatory original three) despite joining FFXIV in 2.2. For all this time I had the fear that they were so horrifically difficult I'd have no chance. Of course the ARR ones are very easy due to unsynced but Ravanna, the only HW I've tried, isn't bad if everyone follows the mechanics.

What I have found is that people who expect a carry, or who aren't paying attention, are *dangerous*. A well prepared new runner is far less likely to cause a wipe than a veteran who thinks it's "LOL Faceroll". I've only done Sophia HM so far but I found the same, people who were running it only because they got it via roulette would fall off or eat far more AoEs because they assume they are invincible.

[Khalithar]

I understand your frustration OP, I threw myself at Sophia Ex in the Raid Finder for many hours over the course of several days until I finally "got" the mechanics then finally had a group that "got" the mechanics enough to finally get a clear. It's frustrating, but don't give up and keep at it.

[Critical-Limit]

It took me about 3 1/2 hours to learn the fight. I wouldn't call that easy.

So of course after I beat it and know the patterns it "feels easy"

Cuz it's already in muscle memory. Just approach it with a "I'm gonna learn this" if you get frustrated mid fight that lowers your chance on completing and you start questioning yourself.

[KarstenS]

It took me about 3 1/2 hours to learn the fight.

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In earlier days, average groups practised around a week for the first kill. 3 1/2 hours is nothing for an ex primal.

[Campi]

Sophia Ex is very very easy.
Sry OP, but you just can't play your tank and don't know for what CDs are.

I have played tank, dps and healer in sophia ex, and it was always very easy.

As MT you just have to use a CD at the green smoke and the OT has to provoke.
very simple.

Its just that you have to use more then 1-2-3

[Cherub]

Sophia Ex would be alot harder if the blue quasar wouldnt scream at peoples faces "run to the other side", people wouldnt be raiseable after falling down, Cloudy heavens would make the confused DPS ALOT more dangerous, the tank buster would be followed up by multiple attacks that can't be avoided and need to be healed through, cintamani casts would keep getting one hit more the longer the fight goes. Just alot more punishable and truly more RNG than it is now. But 3.4 content is a joke anyway. Even Savage raid is easy. People pf A9S and A10S as if it's nothing (because it is).
Now I wonder if the savage we got is really the savage they thought of or if it's a toned down version of what they had originally created.
I love Sophia but I don't like how easy her fight is. The constant scale tipping is awesome though.