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  1. #31
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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    I've only just started doing EX Primals (except the pseudo-mandatory original three) despite joining FFXIV in 2.2. For all this time I had the fear that they were so horrifically difficult I'd have no chance. Of course the ARR ones are very easy due to unsynced but Ravanna, the only HW I've tried, isn't bad if everyone follows the mechanics.

    What I have found is that people who expect a carry, or who aren't paying attention, are *dangerous*. A well prepared new runner is far less likely to cause a wipe than a veteran who thinks it's "LOL Faceroll". I've only done Sophia HM so far but I found the same, people who were running it only because they got it via roulette would fall off or eat far more AoEs because they assume they are invincible.
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  2. #32
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    You people scare me. If this is what you call laughably simple, I think I might unsub and quit gaming for life if you showed me what you considered difficult. I mean, this is the first extreme trial that I've attempted, so maybe that factors into it?
    hehe try alex savage. though A9S isn't that much different from normal version; just 3 new mechanics. I just started on A11S, and it's messy as hell.
    Sophia is simple, and people are farming it for 99totems to buy mount. i made 43 runs and got all but 1wep (just need whm staff from loot, or 7totems to buy it)
    the biggest problems with the fight for most ppl, is counting tethers for tilts, stacking for sin, stacking at right places when the head pops up/dodging Thunder II/III/Aero III.
    it's called extreme, cause it's meant to be difficult. but honestly it should be called only hard, cause it's def not extreme. people routinely clear these new EX primals, within a few hours of release.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    I think people over-exaggerate how "Easy" they find Sophia.
    no aside from occasional derps, like getting jump locked during aero III, or mis-counting tethers, there's little that SHOULD go wrong (unless there's new ppl in the group)

    Quote Originally Posted by thorkellthetall View Post
    Sophex has been done 4man already. That's how easy it is.
    with 270 gear?
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    Last edited by Radacci; 10-28-2016 at 06:21 PM.

  3. #33
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    Khalith Mateo
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    I understand your frustration OP, I threw myself at Sophia Ex in the Raid Finder for many hours over the course of several days until I finally "got" the mechanics then finally had a group that "got" the mechanics enough to finally get a clear. It's frustrating, but don't give up and keep at it.
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  4. #34
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    To be honest this is my first time tanking at new primal (I only did tanking when old primal goes to DF) and I don't have any problem to be MT/OT. As PLD I only use Sheltron, as WAR I use Inner Beast, as DRK I use... Only some defense cd, but still survived.
    Hate to change the topic BUT HOW the heck are you flexing like that in game in your sig, how do you do that?
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  5. #35
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    It took me about 3 1/2 hours to learn the fight. I wouldn't call that easy.

    So of course after I beat it and know the patterns it "feels easy"

    Cuz it's already in muscle memory. Just approach it with a "I'm gonna learn this" if you get frustrated mid fight that lowers your chance on completing and you start questioning yourself.
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  6. #36
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    Campi Nitsu
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    Sophia Ex is very very easy.
    Sry OP, but you just can't play your tank and don't know for what CDs are.

    I have played tank, dps and healer in sophia ex, and it was always very easy.

    As MT you just have to use a CD at the green smoke and the OT has to provoke.
    very simple.

    Its just that you have to use more then 1-2-3
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  7. #37
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Sophia is Shiva 3.0: Both fights were awesome, nice to farm and easier than other primals before. While Thordan is one of the most difficult fight, Sophia is more forgiving:
    • If you die in the 2nd phase, you re still alive (kinda)
    • If you fall down, you can still get a raise
    • If someone fails to one mechanic, it wont wipe the group (for the most part)
    • The phases and mechanics are easy enough
    • With a skilled tank and healer, solo-tank and solo-heal are possible
    • Not a real DPS-check here

    Sure, like any other primal fight, you can mess up things. But many mistakes can be fixed by other players. I m a more casual player, but I managed to get the kill with the second partyfinder-random-group. I ve expected something more difficult.

    PS: I want Sophias dress >: D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    Hate to change the topic BUT HOW the heck are you flexing like that in game in your sig, how do you do that?
    It's the new pose for highlander after hildibrand took our unique pose
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by gastovski View Post
    Hey, new player here. Why people play extreme primals, what to gain and how affects endgame play?.

    Sophia is a quick way to get a significantly better weapon.
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    Miasma Eschaton
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    Sophia Ex would be alot harder if the blue quasar wouldnt scream at peoples faces "run to the other side", people wouldnt be raiseable after falling down, Cloudy heavens would make the confused DPS ALOT more dangerous, the tank buster would be followed up by multiple attacks that can't be avoided and need to be healed through, cintamani casts would keep getting one hit more the longer the fight goes. Just alot more punishable and truly more RNG than it is now. But 3.4 content is a joke anyway. Even Savage raid is easy. People pf A9S and A10S as if it's nothing (because it is).
    Now I wonder if the savage we got is really the savage they thought of or if it's a toned down version of what they had originally created.
    I love Sophia but I don't like how easy her fight is. The constant scale tipping is awesome though.
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