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スレッド: Rage over Sophia

  1. #21
    Player
    mosaicex's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/10/05
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    455
    Character
    Noyoyo Noyo
    World
    Typhon
    Main Class
    ナイト Lv 80
    Sophia IS one of the easiest EX Primal fight, maybe beaten only by Bismarck.

    By comparison :
    Ravana - expect a wipe people don't know how to deal with Swift liberation and Final liberation
    Thordan - expect a wipe if people don't know how to deal with tether , don't know how to deal with Wildcharge etc.
    Sephirot - expect to die to purple, green if people don't know how to position. On second phase if at least one orange guy dies then at least ONE green guy will die too, and god forbid if earthshaker target don't know where to run to, and if someone fell off then that's final.
    Nidhogg - multiple dps check during the fight (adds, fang and claw), with some deadly mechanics during them too.

    Sophia? Sophia has almost no mechanics that required co-operation except for the Sin&Punishment positions, and NO insta party wipe AT ALL. If someone died you can just revive them, over and over. DPS check is also very lenient (group with decent DPS can clear her in 8-9 minutes, enrage timer is 11 WHOLE MINUTES). Cintamani can be dealt with just Medica 2 + Medica (Or any 2 aoe heals, for that matter). Tank buster that can be survived in DPS stance (Holmgang, at least 2 times, Sentinel + Sheltron etc.)
    (4)
    2016/10/28 19:46; mosaicex が最後に編集

  2. #22
    Player
    basketofseals's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/07/05
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    815
    Character
    Verrine Mercer
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    侍 Lv 86
    I dunno why people are saying Bismark is easier than Sophia. I guess it was easier to outgear the fight compared to Sophia, but if you did it at the "appropriate" ilevel, it was pretty hard. Especially pugging it. People got blasted off the edge all the time, and finding pubs who did the required DPS was a struggle.

    With Sophia at least you just kinda run with the group. Bismark you had to know the fight and especially the weather.
    (6)

  3. #23
    Player
    thorkellthetall's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/12/18
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    43
    Character
    Mister Blaster
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    戦士 Lv 60
    Sophex has been done 4man already. That's how easy it is.
    (4)

  4. #24
    Player
    cougarel's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/06/25
    Location
    Ul’dah
    投稿
    140
    Character
    Sophia Miyuki
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    白魔道士 Lv 90
    As others have said, the green aura is the visual cue that she is about to use the tank buster . How to survive it? Well tanks do have cds which take some amount of damage and for even more damage nerf from it, the healer or summoner can cast virus which takes 15% .
    My 2 cents on the matter.
    If you think this is hard, try Thordan ex and then yes you can rant, but for Sophia Ex, well try to speak with the other party members to use the information gained from this tread.
    (0)
    2016/10/28 16:12; cougarel が最後に編集
    There is no limit that can not be passed

  5. #25
    Player
    Elim's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/08
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    1,852
    Character
    Elim Lovecraft
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 50
    The zero healing check/solo healable part bothers me the most. Almost everything in this game is solo healable. Now that I switched to AST and became the "main healer" in my group, this bothers me less. But as a SCH I was basically a DPS that shielded the group/tanks sometimes. Even when AS3 was the "big stop gap" for groups, I cleared it DPSing 90% of the time(because it was basically just a massive DPS check). I wonder if the devs will ever tune a EX for two healers, or if they'll keep nerfing the healing and DPS requirements.

    /rantover
    (0)

  6. #26
    Player
    Worldofwarcraft's Avatar
    登録日
    2012/07/21
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    115
    Character
    Has Boob
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    ナイト Lv 100
    sophia ex is really easy :O
    (1)

  7. #27
    Player
    KikodeYusaku's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/07/29
    Location
    Ul'dah
    投稿
    31
    Character
    Titan's Heart
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 70
    As people have said, this fight is generally considered quite simple. I can see why you find it difficult since it's your first extreme primal, but you seriously only need time to get more used to mechanic heavy fights and I'm sure you'll be more comfortable and enthusiastic.
    (4)

  8. #28
    Player
    gastovski's Avatar
    登録日
    2016/10/10
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    55
    Character
    Altair Ibn-la'ahad
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    双剣士 Lv 60
    Hey, new player here. Why people play extreme primals, what to gain and how affects endgame play?.
    (1)

  9. #29
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    ServerCollaps's Avatar
    登録日
    2012/01/21
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    Character
    Mikon Chozo
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    漁師 Lv 100
    jeez, its called "extreme" for some reasons >_>
    (1)

  10. #30
    Player
    Tizzy_Tormentor's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/09/28
    Location
    Gridania
    投稿
    622
    Character
    Tizzy Tormentor
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    機工士 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:gastovski 投稿を閲覧
    Hey, new player here. Why people play extreme primals, what to gain and how affects endgame play?.
    Extreme Primal fights typically drop weapons, which when the fight first comes out, are the best until you can get Tome/Savage weaponry (even then, they are great for gearing up alt classes or using them for glamour) there are also low chance drops such as mounts, crafting mats and orchestrion rolls.

    OT: I myself didn't find the fight that hard, its much easier with friends you have on voice chat (had a friend who called out where to move for Execution and the tilts) Healing is relatively easy due to her hard hitting attacks being very telegraphed. If you are having trouble with the tank buster, remember that it needs to be swapped. I messed up a few times too until we got a patient group who persisted for a clear (thank you Raid Finder) and I look forward to farming it soon, yeah I am pretty late to the party, but I like to take things slow.
    (1)

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