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    You people scare me. If this is what you call laughably simple, I think I might unsub and quit gaming for life if you showed me what you considered difficult. I mean, this is the first extreme trial that I've attempted, so maybe that factors into it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    You people scare me. If this is what you call laughably simple, I think I might unsub and quit gaming for life if you showed me what you considered difficult. I mean, this is the first extreme trial that I've attempted, so maybe that factors into it?
    Thordan is still the hardest one for me imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    You people scare me. If this is what you call laughably simple, I think I might unsub and quit gaming for life if you showed me what you considered difficult. I mean, this is the first extreme trial that I've attempted, so maybe that factors into it?
    It isn't that hard just pop your cooldowns :/, you might need alittle more hp if you're uncomfortable. Otherwise the tank buster really isn't that dangerous UNLESS the OT isn't pull it off you in time. But really sophia ex isn't that hard. For the lines, Even total lines = Heavy tilt, Odd = light tilt. I've seen people cleared this, while this being their first extreme trial with your current HP you most likely won't survive without one defensive cooldown.
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    When it comes to the mechanics, Sophia Ex has pretty much all the tricky ones... Huge tank busters, risk of falling off the edge (along with mechanics that can push you off), coordinating with teammates (colored circles)...

    However, what makes the fight easy is just how forgiving it is. Even if you fall off the edge, you can be raised. A few people derping won't typically wipe you as the enrage timer is pretty lenient. Even if a tank dies to a tank buster, it's usually not the end of world. I've had tanks fail several tank swaps and we would still clear. I've had people derping the whole fight and we would still clear.
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    It's "extreme" for a reason, to eat your lunch if you don't do job mechanics. I tank all the extreme primals because it's fun.

    Nidhogg without cooldown on Ala Morn. You could die.
    Sephirot without cooldown for his telegraphed fists, you die.
    Sephirot without cooldown for towers, you die and likely wipe the party
    Thordan add buster, you don't pop a cooldown, you die.
    Sophia green buster, you don't pop a cooldown, you die. Oh and you get knocked back too so positioning is important.

    You see the green, pop Shadowskin or Shadowall. Done. Foresight is also good when its up because the buster is physical. Other tank should have already voked and have threat when you get pushed back since you stop hitting it.

    It's not tank-and-spank land, if you want that the fine normal modes are there for that junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Sephirot without cooldown for towers, you die and likely wipe the party
    Actually, the tower doesn't explode if the tower damage kills the person inside it, so the party is just fine (at least, as long as they get the tank up again before the next time the tank is needed). "Saccing" a tower (tossing a weak player in and letting them die) is a valid strategy to prevent the tower from exploding. Though, to be fair, if you ever need to sac a tower, chances are things are spiraling so badly out of control that you're likely not gonna recover anyway. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Actually, the tower doesn't explode if the tower damage kills the person inside it, so the party is just fine (at least, as long as they get the tank up again before the next time the tank is needed). "Saccing" a tower (tossing a weak player in and letting them die) is a valid strategy to prevent the tower from exploding. Though, to be fair, if you ever need to sac a tower, chances are things are spiraling so badly out of control that you're likely not gonna recover anyway. XD
    Yeah, same recoverable strategy like us tanks can take a green tether with the wrong debuff, we can just pop an immunity cooldown to live through it. But it's likely there were more mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    You people scare me. If this is what you call laughably simple, I think I might unsub and quit gaming for life if you showed me what you considered difficult. I mean, this is the first extreme trial that I've attempted, so maybe that factors into it?
    hehe try alex savage. though A9S isn't that much different from normal version; just 3 new mechanics. I just started on A11S, and it's messy as hell.
    Sophia is simple, and people are farming it for 99totems to buy mount. i made 43 runs and got all but 1wep (just need whm staff from loot, or 7totems to buy it)
    the biggest problems with the fight for most ppl, is counting tethers for tilts, stacking for sin, stacking at right places when the head pops up/dodging Thunder II/III/Aero III.
    it's called extreme, cause it's meant to be difficult. but honestly it should be called only hard, cause it's def not extreme. people routinely clear these new EX primals, within a few hours of release.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    I think people over-exaggerate how "Easy" they find Sophia.
    no aside from occasional derps, like getting jump locked during aero III, or mis-counting tethers, there's little that SHOULD go wrong (unless there's new ppl in the group)

    Quote Originally Posted by thorkellthetall View Post
    Sophex has been done 4man already. That's how easy it is.
    with 270 gear?
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    Last edited by Radacci; 10-28-2016 at 06:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    You people scare me. If this is what you call laughably simple, I think I might unsub and quit gaming for life if you showed me what you considered difficult. I mean, this is the first extreme trial that I've attempted, so maybe that factors into it?
    Your first Ex? yeah stay away from the others then.

    But yeah natural that what ex/savage should do. Make you play harder. All the Ex's I do find this the easiest but of course it depends on how your group plays the fight and just, well, how good you are.
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    Well um.. With PF or RF it can be tough. Because people can make things harder than normal.. I'd say you are very unlucky because most of everyone cleared Sophia already. Sophia is said to be one of the easiest EX Primals. So it was cleared by maaamy people early into its release.

    I would say take a short break but that wastes time..

    Maybe form a farm party and just be honest about your status of the fight? Like if you've seen 2% enrage, I'd accept you to my farm party..

    Anyways, I like Sophia. It's a fun fight. And with it being in RF it's so much more accessible.
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