WAR Advice / What makes a good tank?

[TastyBiscuit]

Hello, I main'd WAR up until the second most recent patch, where I then went to Ninja. Now I'm back to WAR. People have told me I'm a good/decent tank, I use my cool downs when pulling and I try to Inner Beast each tank buster, with the occasional premature use! What I'm looking for is help in Deliverance, I've seen WARs take absolutely no damage while in it and managing to do over 1000 DPS. I envy their skill and hope to be as good as them, so what general tips do the WAR vets have to give to me?

Thank you!

Also if you don't wish to offer WAR advice, what do you think makes a good tank? Regardless of their class!

[Canadane]

Just try to remember that Defiance doesn't prevent any incoming damage compared to Deliverance. So your cooldown use (other than Inner Beast) is going to work exactly the same.

Learn how to fit three Fell Cleaves within a single Berserk and you should be otherwise okay from the sounds of it.

[TastyBiscuit]

Just try to remember that Defiance doesn't prevent any incoming damage compared to Deliverance. So your cooldown use (other than Inner Beast) is going to work exactly the same.

Learn how to fit three Fell Cleaves within a single Berserk and you should be otherwise okay from the sounds of it.

Ah thanks, I can do Berserk with 3 Fell Cleaves. It's just the timing I gotta work on. Thanks for the help comment!

[Synestra]

Just try to remember that Defiance doesn't prevent any incoming damage compared to Deliverance.

And this right here is why WAR stances are superior compared to DRK or PLD!

[Sweetgrass]

And this right here is why WAR stances are superior compared to DRK or PLD!

Not really, as you do not get the benefit of the tank stance instantly. Your HP is still at the Deliverance-levels, and requires healing or another ability use to help top it up. Also, 10s cooldown prevents fast swaps for, say, EDD adds.

WAR still has the advantage in their stances being off-GCD, but they're not better in every area.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Not really, as you do not get the benefit of the tank stance instantly. Your HP is still at the Deliverance-levels, and requires healing or another ability use to help top it up. Also, 10s cooldown prevents fast swaps for, say, EDD adds.

WAR still has the advantage in their stances being off-GCD, but they're not better in every area.

Wrath still grants a parry chance, so there is still something to gain from it. (And depending on when you swap in a "tick" you gain more auto regen from higher max HP, so its possible to see 'something' how ever minor)

[Sweetgrass]

Wrath still grants a parry chance, so there is still something to gain from it. (And depending on when you swap in a "tick" you gain more auto regen from higher max HP, so its possible to see 'something' how ever minor)

I agree with you, but +10% parry chance might as well not exist due to how poorly the stat scales, and +25% to a 1% hp/s regen is also almost nothing. You're right, just want to avoid misinformation.

[Synestra]

WAR still has the advantage in their stances being off-GCD, but they're not better in every area.

And this why it is so good as both PLD and DRK will never see oGCD stances as long as those provide that freebie -20% DMG reduction. I would love to see that passive DMG reduction to get removed/reworked to something else in 4.0 if it means we can finally have oGCD stances on all tanks.

[Sarcatica]

Note to yourself that every single fight is different and your CDs usage and triple FC might not be feasible universally. Learning the fights inside out is going to be the most challenging theme if you want to get the best efficiency of your DPS and tanking.

[TastyBiscuit]

Note to yourself that every single fight is different and your CDs usage and triple FC might not be feasible universally. Learning the fights inside out is going to be the most challenging theme if you want to get the best efficiency of your DPS and tanking.

I can 100% agree with you here, I was tanking Sophia Ex and I found timing a lot of my abilities to be difficult as you have to kinda predict when she'll use the Lightning debuff attack. Thanks for the help