Thread: Reset Item Levels in 4.0?

So....whats the problem? They're just artificial numbers, they rise in ilvl to show a difference in power on the gear, and it inevitably happens that it'll rise much higher than whatever max level is due to the fact so many patches with new sets of gear comes out before the next level cap comes. This seems like a pointless task that'd just take away from more important things to improve on, you'd have to scale every piece of gear in the game and every single mob in the game to match the new level of the gear if you're talking about reducing it's power.

I am not opposed to them doing that, but I don't see a need for it either.

This would definitely create more problems than solutions as there would need to be major adjustments to all preceeding gear and content restrictions, as well as being incredibly jarring for players to get used to.
But as someone before me mentioned, I personally don't see what is "taking away the importance of gear", it's just a simple system of Higher number = better.

Why is everyone obsessed with horizontal progression is my big question.

Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Why is everyone obsessed with horizontal progression is my big question.

No one here would be able to explain it to you better than a simple google search, so here:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=horizontal+progression
https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comm...l_progression/
http://www.mmobro.com/horizontal-pro...t-progression/
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/stranges...ression-Really
https://www.engadget.com/2014/02/05/...l-progression/

I mean, they could just divide all item levels by 2, but then fresh 50s would have ilvls have their level? It was approximately ilvl ~=~ lvl until endgame, at which point it's necessary in a vertical gearing system that ilvls increase enough to provide real incentive to do the new content given. You can argue about how long leveling should take compared to endgame, whether there should be gearing bonuses that could carry across from leveling to level cap, (mostly) horizontal vs. (mostly) vertical progression, but candy path / carrot on a stick will remain, whatever its form.

The idea is that every 5 ilvls adds x% of stats, and that amount necessarily compounds over time. But shorten that bonus and the gear's hardly worth raiding for. More than our ilvl, which will increase mostly linearly, it's probably our dps you should worry more about apparent inflation in, as it will be increasing more exponentially with that ilvl. But, I'm not sure there's any point in fretting over either. Sure, 2.x was measured in the hundreds, 3.x in the thousands, and 4.x will likely be in the tens of thousands and so forth, but what's the issue with going from a "320" dps to "3.2k" to "3.2万" to ".32m" to "3.2m" and so forth?

If anything the amount of dps we're lose when fully geared out from the last expansion as we gain our first few levels, for diminished secondary stat conversions, annoys me more than that.

no point in doing so. first of all the gear needs to be the way it is now for ppl that don't have the expansion or else there would be just 1 lv50 set, 1 lv60 set and so on.

2nd: for horizontal progression to work you need content that warrents the need for several gear pieces of the same strength. e.g. one piece let's you take less water dmg, while the other boosts your damage output against voidsend enemies. that would lead to serious inventory issues. and if you don't need that special gear to clear content there is no point in having it in the first place and you end up with just the easiest optainable gear you can get. and this you will wear through the whole expansion...