Should Cleric Stance be disabled in party instances?

[TaleraRistain]

I have the unpopular opinion. I think they should both disable cleric stance in party instances and increase the necessary healing or status clearing mechanics that we have. The only reason we have ability to be supplemental dps is because Square's bad dungeon design isn't giving us enough to do.

[Yona87]

I enjoy raising my skill cap on my healer, so no. Cleric stance is fine.

[ErdrickLoto]

I have the unpopular opinion. I think they should both disable cleric stance in party instances and increase the necessary healing or status clearing mechanics that we have. The only reason we have ability to be supplemental dps is because Square's bad dungeon design isn't giving us enough to do.

I don't see why you'd need to disable Cleric Stance if dungeons hurt more.

If you removed Cleric Stance, then it means that healers would still have a lot less to do in old instances (since I somewhat doubt they'd go back and retrofit all the old dungeons to increase the damage mobs dealt). You could still throw out damage spells, yes...but they won't be anywhere close to effective.

[Cynfael]

Considering that many healers already struggle somewhat with the current healing requirements (without even making an effort at stance-dancing...), and that many tanks continue to neglect or incorrectly use their CDs, significantly increasing damage dealt in duties sounds like a tragic proposition.

For me, the most entertaining encounters reward utilizing the healer's full kit. Standing around spam-healing is little different than spamming damage while regens tick and/or you spam Embrace <mo>.

[Leigaon]

Now if cleric stance is disabled in PvE dungeons/raids (like in PvP), the issue of people complaining you are not dpsing enough will dissipate, possibly...

I see where you're coming from with that, though I don't think that it will be reduced by enough. Though your damage would be lesser, it would still be something. It shouldn't be disabled, it is part of our toolkit. Though what people need to realize is that within our toolkit there's also a priority list for each job.

Someone made a post that made it pretty clear, each job can deal damage. It's just in what order do they do it. But in the end it seems that the community or maybe a chunk of individuals can't agree on that order and accept that some people, due to numerous reasons (some good..some bad) do not get to the damage dealing priority part of the run.

You shouldn't be getting put down or yelled at due to you not doing the damage. Though on the other hand you should understand if you're standing around and can easily switch over to dealing damage and you're not, you're not performing to max. You've met expectations for your "role" but you're not expectations for job/class.

[VanilleFang]

Though your damage would be lesser, it wouldn't still be something.

Anyone who asks a healer to dps at length without CS doesn't understand how much CS actually gives. I would argue that a healer's dps would be a negative if CS was removed. MP costs for our spells would remain the same and (I have no numbers right now I'm just guesstimating) our damage would be like 1/10th what it is right now. So we would be draining our MP for a small fraction of the damage. We'd be better off sitting on our hands, at least then we wouldn't be spending 800 MP to tickle an enemy.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

BTW what you guys gonna do with no cleric stance with 4 healers in POTD?

[Rennies]

Sit there and bitch about how they're not ever meant to DPS :'3

They just want to get carried.

[Normalizer]

Ahem... if you read some of the post, they already gave the solution to that... your enemy just die themselves when encounter a healer/full healer party. It's the holy power!

[VanilleFang]

Ahem... if you read some of the post, they already gave the solution to that... your enemy just die themselves when encounter a healer/full healer party. It's the holy power!

Yes please. Healing is too hard, let me afk murder plz.