Should Cleric Stance be disabled in party instances?

[RiisWolf]

CS is not used to make up any deficit on DPS

Funny at how Savage raiders use CS to actually make up for deficit DPS which they've commonly brought onto themselves by entering at entry level or below, in addition to DPS play safe so much they could never push, and consequently never hope to win without healer's hand holding them through the number game. Some of those same players opt out into healing jobs instead of DPS to avoid the obnoxious timers, set ups, and technical junk that in someway in the boss fight will get in the way of doing the most you can do ,most importantly, and those fights baby them so much you can get away with attacking the vast majority of the time as early as week 1. WEEK 1. This problem got worse in Gordias Savage because SE not only foolishly released it before anyone had normal alex gear, but that because of STR tanks, it was baby damage AND they overtuned the DPS requirements, intending nobody would beat it as soon as world's first did. Even with better gear, more power, and more time, to this mob it's just week 1. Week 1 where the DPS are complacent and the healers hold their hands to the finish line.

Then those same players bleed into the main game, telling newbies they are expected to attack and/or ignore healing, which leads to sloppy play. And just so you know, sloppy is too careless and unsystematic, not lazy, not underwhelming, and not whatever silly thing whomever it is you're following likes to tack onto.

Some of us DO use CS to join the fray at ZERO expense of the party in dungeons, but guess what! Many more believe they're using CS for a whole other thing: cause they HAVE to, cause some popular guy told them to, all while not knowing any better.

I use CS WHEN my DPS group is on top of it's game. Not the other way around.

Don't lie. You'll use it even when the DPS isn't on their game at all. Oh the DPS sucks; this fight is going so slow. I'll shower them with stones and holy to speed things along. It's too not fun to not use holy even if the damage the party's been taking is so intense, they might die if I take 5 seconds off healing to attack.

Also you said you want quicker results. You don't get quicker results if you attack ONLY when the DPS doesn't suck. And because of this mob and people like you, that number of DPS who are still complacent, clueless and can't know how to do their best NEVER changed, while there's so many more healers playing pretend DPS just to feel special as they get into dungeons faster than the actual DPS. And some of us are getting real sick of it.