Not related to XIV

[Andrien]

Just want to discuss something about what Yoshinori Kitase said.

Kitase said that action RPG's are "becoming a trend" and "one you ignore at your peril." That means there's a big chance that Final Fantasy XV will be labeled an "action RPG."

"Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII-2‘s battle systems have those elements of speed and action that are the key words for us, though that doesn’t necessarily mean we’re going to stick to the same route in our next game."

I don't think gamers is moving away from turn based but instead, forced away from turn based because developers stopped making the system. SSsooo, we "moved away" because we didn't have a choice, so you ignore this forced trend "at your own peril."

end rant.

source: http://www.next-gen.biz/news/final-f...-be-action-rpg

[Charismatic]

You don't "think" gamers are moving away from turn-based RPGs but they don't care what you "think"; they care about their bottom line. If turn-based RPGs aren't moving(and hey, for the most part they aren't), they'll make something else that will...

[Andrien]

You don't "think" gamers are moving away from turn-based RPGs but they don't care what you "think"; they care about their bottom line. If turn-based RPGs aren't moving(and hey, for the most part they aren't), they'll make something else that will...

I suppose I can say they are not moving away from anything. I'm sure a lot cares.

[Issac]

Lately I've been replaying older console JRPG games because I can't find newer games of that genre worth a damn these days. XII was short and too easy, gambits made everything a joke. XIII? My god, that game pissed me off. X, x, x, x, x, x, x, x... I can count on ONE hand how many times I needed to actually think out my actions in that game.

So screw it, I'll go back to playing RPGs that were actually fun. Lunar, Grandia, SO2/SO3, FF-FFIX, Chrono Trigger/Cross, so on and so forth.

[Charismatic]

Action-based doesn't mean "spamming X" by the way.

Example:

[Andrien]

Yeah but I think FFXIII gone a bit overboard and made it automatic as well.

[Airget]

Yeah but I think FFXIII gone a bit overboard and made it automatic as well.

What amuses me about this comment is that 13 wanted fluid battles and it did accomplish that. basically when people say that it's like they are saying "well I wouldn't have used the move that mob was weak against hell no, I wanted to use fire on that fire type monster not water." It's like the concept basically said, well in a game you pretty much perform the moves that are most efficient for the battle, so instead of having to give commands to every player you controlled one, and your moves were based on the most logical setup you as the player would end up choosing anyway.

The strategy in the game itself came from changing your batle plans through the battle whether you needed healing, someone to act as a shield or enhance your party or enfeeble the mob. In that case the game moved pretty fast and the action itself was pretty much formulated as "well these are the actions you would pick anyway so why are you complaining that's it's done automatically?" Unless you actually enjoy the aspect of doing "magic" "Fire 3" "use", "magic" "Fire 3" "use" rinse repeat til the mob is dead lol.

[Andrien]

What amuses me about this comment is that 13 wanted fluid battles and it did accomplish that. basically when people say that it's like they are saying "well I wouldn't have used the move that mob was weak against hell no, I wanted to use fire on that fire type monster not water." It's like the concept basically said, well in a game you pretty much perform the moves that are most efficient for the battle, so instead of having to give commands to every player you controlled one, and your moves were based on the most logical setup you as the player would end up choosing anyway.

The strategy in the game itself came from changing your batle plans through the battle whether you needed healing, someone to act as a shield or enhance your party or enfeeble the mob. In that case the game moved pretty fast and the action itself was pretty much formulated as "well these are the actions you would pick anyway so why are you complaining that's it's done automatically?" Unless you actually enjoy the aspect of doing "magic" "Fire 3" "use", "magic" "Fire 3" "use" rinse repeat til the mob is dead lol.

The funny thing is, in your logic the game is playing itself. Yeah just hit the automatic button and watch, rinse repeat.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

I think ffxiii largest flaw was auto-battle.

[WinnipegJet]

I think ffxiii largest flaw was auto-battle.

Without auto-battle some of those fights would have been incredibly difficult, if not impossible.

Did you 5 star all missions? Did you manage to kill the Adamantoise+3?