Just some toughts from (relativly) new player

[cr00cy]

Hi everyone its 1st tiem im posting here. I started playign ff xiv like 3 months ago and so far im finding mor e things to like than to dislike.

The ones i like most is story, and that every class i played so far feels diffrent than others. Also crafting.

What i dislake most is that there is little customnization for classes - from what i seen so far every warrior will have the same stat distribution and the same cross-class skills.
Also crafting (when i faill several 90% succes chance actions in row).

I also would liek to say that Dark Knight 30-50 story was one of best stories in mmo i ever saw. Really, devs did wonderfull job on this one.

So yeh, ahve nice day everyone, and see you in game.

[KitingGenbu]

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As Yoshida once said in an interview, "If you want a different way of playing a role, just change classes." I do not personally agree with it, but that's the dev lead's vision, so for now the player base has to deal with it until the game hits a point where a new vision is necessary.

[cammi]

Why do people ask for this stuff? All people will do is follow some meta that is found out by the 1% of players and shun any and everybody who doesn't follow said meta.

[KitingGenbu]

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People say this a lot but its pretty inaccurate. I was able to full clear mythic raids in WoW:WoD with a couple of custom talent builds for my DK and Hunter (more for survivability) rather than said "meta" for each. It really comes down the group of people you work with and not a bunch of randoms.

[cammi]

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I'm saying this as someone who made a speed slayer in Tera when every other slayer was crit and power. And I soloed 90% of Tera with my custom slayer. I'm not saying it doesn't work, what I meant by saying that is it IS pointless. You're right it is about the groups you are going to be running with. And what are 90% of them going to be running? The meta. Want a real world example? The Division. You have all kinds of builds in that game... what do people do? Smart cover or go home. IT's pretty much the meta until it's changed. And even with the update coming up in 2 days people in the chat of State of the game were trying to find a NEW meta. So again I'm not saying you're wrong, but it is pointless as most people want to follow and get instant results instead of trying new things out.And as long as that's the case the meta will be the standard and you will be laughed at if you don't do it. Another example is the dungeon thread on this site. How many times do people on this very game complain about people NOT doing the meta or not doing their job?

I'm not going to hope people will all of a sudden be understanding on going against the meta... as that doesn't happen.

[dragonseth07]

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Metas develop for a reason. Even if the advantages are miniscule, it's worth pursuing them for that edge. There's nothing wrong with intentionally playing a weak option...in a single player game. But, when you have teammates, it's rude to lower the group performance because you want to be unique.

[cammi]

Metas develop for a reason. Even if the advantages are miniscule, it's worth pursuing them for that edge. There's nothing wrong with intentionally playing a weak option...in a single player game. But, when you have teammates, it's rude to lower the group performance because you want to be unique.

Again this is why I don't understand why people ask for different setups when you just proved why it will never happen. This post right here proves what I was saying on page one. :c

[Reynhart]

Why do people ask for this stuff? All people will do is follow some meta that is found out by the 1% of players and shun any and everybody who doesn't follow said meta.

Is Diablo II too old that people already forgot the multiple viable builds you could do with each class ?

[Balipu]

Is Diablo II too old that people already forgot the multiple viable builds you could do with each class ?

Apparently yes. Also people honestly believe that everyone would copy the one viable build used by hardcore raiders, even if they wouldn't touch a savage raid with a ten feet pole.
For the record I would go with the least practical one for roleplay reasons.
The safest would be to have ability glamours. I posted this in another wishlist/plan/whatever thread. It wouldn't affect gameplay (negating the one viable build argument) but people could play around with changing flmae color or switching thrown daggers for cards or shuriken. If we get Egi glamour anyway, why not?

[Kurogaea]

Why do people ask for this stuff? All people will do is follow some meta that is found out by the 1% of players and shun any and everybody who doesn't follow said meta.

Speak for yourself. Like some, I prefer to make my own build and master it, customizing it to suit my own preferences. People ask for it because this is an MMORPG. We want to customize our own characters. Period.