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    Just because there are things already in the game that hurt the art direction, doesn't mean it's cool to go ahead and stomp on what's left of it.

    People that don't want the wings probably didn't agree with the Yokai Watch event either.

    And yes, the game does have an established aesthetic. Different styles within that aesthetic like what you described doesn't change that. Most armor and equipment sets can be pretty easily recognized as being from this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LioJen View Post
    Just because there are things already in the game that hurt the art direction, doesn't mean it's cool to go ahead and stomp on what's left of it.

    People that don't want the wings probably didn't agree with the Yokai Watch event either.

    And yes, the game does have an established aesthetic. Different styles within that aesthetic like what you described doesn't change that. Most armor and equipment sets can be pretty easily recognized as being from this game.
    I could go through the many things that do not fit this games PRIMARY aesthetics from furnishings to gear (believe me there is a lot). I could point out things such as Yokai watch and the DQX stuff that do not even fit the games art style let alone aesthetic. I could point out all the lore issues of things from cross over events, some of our seasonal events, or for the real lore lovers the things that ended up changing/getting lost from the change over from 1.x to 2.x. Like I said if you don't like the look if you prefer it not to be in the game personally that is a valid arguement but when it comes to cosmetics they have established their stance on it not having to match aesthetically to what people perceive as this games primary look, nor does it need to mesh in any way with the lore of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LioJen View Post
    Just because there are things already in the game that hurt the art direction, doesn't mean it's cool to go ahead and stomp on what's left of it.
    Why not? It's called a precedent, you can't be okay with one and not with the other, why aren't you asking for the removal of those?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Why not? It's called a precedent, you can't be okay with one and not with the other, why aren't you asking for the removal of those?
    Okay, please remove them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Why not? It's called a precedent, you can't be okay with one and not with the other, why aren't you asking for the removal of those?
    As far as I can tell, alot of these players actually can't point a good reason as to why this shouldn't be in the game. If there was a gunblade class to be released they'd flip their shits just to play it, regardless of how it doesn't fit in with the lore since its garlean tech and we're eorzeans, but I bet you they'll theory craft something just so it would be possible. They just don't want it. Too bad for them.



    I'm open to wings of any kind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    As far as I can tell, alot of these players actually can't point a good reason as to why this shouldn't be in the game.
    As far as I can tell, a lot of these players actually can't point a good reason as to why this should be in the game.

    I can be condescending, closed minded, and dismissive to!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    If there was a gunblade class to be released they'd flip their shits just to play it, regardless of how it doesn't fit in with the lore since its garlean tech and we're eorzeans, but I bet you they'll theory craft something just so it would be possible.

    I'm open to wings of any kind
    Which is reason for it to actually show up in game! Seeing as we're about to be assaulting a Garlean controlled state, coming across that tech is a distinct possibility. Logic and lore dictation... imagine that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuen View Post
    As far as I can tell, a lot of these players actually can't point a good reason as to why this should be in the game.

    I can be condescending, closed minded, and dismissive to!



    Which is reason for it to actually show up in game! Seeing as we're about to be assaulting a Garlean controlled state, coming across that tech is a distinct possibility. Logic and lore dictation... imagine that!
    And having Hellish Gear (Lore Tomes) with wings on the backs and side are ok even though there's no backstory of eorzeans with wings? Ever thought "oh, nice design." because that's all it is, a design of the gear.

    And here's some good reasons: Cosmetic, Options, Role Playing

    So while we're on the topic of why lore is still an invalid reason. How about using Primal Summons to defeat our enemies? Last I checked someone dismissed that idea even though we know Lady Iceheart defended us turning into Shiva. So why is this idea any different than Garlean Gunblades?

    Quote Originally Posted by Myvar View Post
    I believe that this is from a Dead Fantasy video made by Monty Oum and not from a game.
    It is, Iromi clarified my point for me though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Why not? It's called a precedent, you can't be okay with one and not with the other, why aren't you asking for the removal of those?
    Speaking of which does the China Dress also serve as a precedent for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Speaking of which does the China Dress also serve as a precedent for this?
    Domans are practically Asians and most of their outfits look like their unique style robes and kimonos. Why not have the Chinese Dress at that point? :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    Domans are practically Asians and most of their outfits look like their unique style robes and kimonos. Why not have the Chinese Dress at that point? :/
    If you wanna be techical the Domans are supposed to be an analogue to the Japanese, while the landmass of Othard is a stand in for Asia. And Doma isn't stated to be the entirely of Othard. Plus the (at least the female version) dress heavily resembles the MNK Temple/Melee gear (which is heavily associated with Ala Mhigo).
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