Grade 4 Carbonized Matter

[Culfinrandir]

I've done a quick search for this subject but it hasn't been discussed in at least a year so here goes.

G4 Carbonized Matter is too obscure to obtain. I'm *not* saying that it's difficult to get, because it's a simple gather from lvl50 nodes, *but* it only appears at set times & in Mor Dhona. On the other hand, G5 Carbonized Matter is spattered all over Heavensward nodes & can be obtained from NPCs by exchanging Unidentifiable Items that you may not need.

Given that Tier V materia is much easier to obtain than ever before it's definitely time that G4 Carbonized Matter became equally as obtainable. Ideally, at this stage in the expansion, it should be available via retainer ventures (at 20-30 per hour). Arguably G5 should be also added by now. At the very least G4 should be on far more gathering nodes, even lvl50 HW 'standard' ones.

[PROBOUND]

It should have been added to the gathering retainer ventures (46-50) a long time ago. Same goes for Clusters. x5-10 per hour wouldn't be game breaking. It would just follow the pattern of what they did with Gold/Darksteel Ore and G3 Soils.

[OoglieBooglie]

While it is true that the G5 Carbonized Matter is on a lot of the heavensward nodes, THEY ARE BY NO MEANS EASY TO GET FROM THEM. They are rare hidden items to the point where you're lucky to see it once in an hour or two of gathering, unless you use the 3 hq chain skill to get it. Even then, you'll have used 3 gathering attempts just to find the thing, so you'll have anywhere from 1 to 3 hits and that's it for the node.

[PROBOUND]

While it is true that the G5 Carbonized Matter is on a lot of the heavensward nodes, THEY ARE BY NO MEANS EASY TO GET FROM THEM.

Its very easy to get G5 carb matter in comparison to G4 its almost laughable. All you need is 700 GP. Toil > Kings Yield > Profit.

It doesnt make sence that we can gather stacks of G5 per hour but have to settle with such small amounts of G4 even though technically they are required to pentameld far more than G5.

[Espritduo]

The fact that Grade V Carbonized Matter is usually considerably cheaper and in larger supply on the MB than Grade IV should have been a sign to SE that some adjusting needs done. We need TONS of Grade IV now for overmelding, but not nearly as much Grade V. I find myself far too often just using my supply of Grade V to meld Grade IV materia when I run out of IV Matter during a melding session and that isn't right.

[OoglieBooglie]

Its very easy to get G5 carb matter in comparison to G4 its almost laughable. All you need is 700 GP. Toil > Kings Yield > Profit.

It doesnt make sence that we can gather stacks of G5 per hour but have to settle with such small amounts of G4 even though technically they are required to pentameld far more than G5.

Whelp, now I feel like an idiot.

[platorepublic]

It's very cheap to use materia melder anyways... there is no point to buy carbonised matter on the MB unless it is cheaper to use materia melder.

[Legion88]

It's very cheap to use materia melder anyways... there is no point to buy carbonised matter on the MB unless it is cheaper to use materia melder.

Most people do overmelding with Grade IV Materia, cause even they trow the V at us like candy it is to valuable to lost them by the extrem low success rates for overmelding. Overmelding cant be done through the materia melder NPC, so you need carbonized Matter IV for overmelding on Crafters and Gatherers gear or early progression with crafted battle gear.

[Culfinrandir]

It's very cheap to use materia melder anyways... there is no point to buy carbonised matter on the MB unless it is cheaper to use materia melder.

It's completely free for me to meld myself - providing they make it easy enough to get the damn G4 Carbonized Matter! XD

[platorepublic]

Most people do overmelding with Grade IV Materia, cause even they trow the V at us like candy it is to valuable to lost them by the extrem low success rates for overmelding. Overmelding cant be done through the materia melder NPC, so you need carbonized Matter IV for overmelding on Crafters and Gatherers gear or early progression with crafted battle gear.

Ah ok. Fair point.