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  1. #1
    Player
    Leogun's Avatar
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    Leon Shepherd
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Im the kinda person who is like, I want a class in all platemail, with a 2h great sword, who melees, but is a healer.
    That combo usually never exists, or if it does, is weaker than if it used a staff/mace/ what ever.
    So I understand how wanting a combination not normally used is likable, but to say what everyone else wants to see isnt, for essentially the same reasoning, is just silly.
    You're not alone!

    I think having a kind of durable off-healer/support/melee DPS (of course leaning more toward healing than dps) can work and fill a niche not be overshadowed if you take in its full capabilities while also not overshadowing anyone. Taking the concept of that revolver-sheath art, the sam's weapon could actually be a trio of swords that can stand for each stance: a spirit stance, a technique stance and a savage stance (given proper japanese/samurai-esque titles) with a draw-out/blade sealing iaido mechanic meaning, if you seal the weapon before resheathing it (to swap stances), you have the capability of using strong draw-out techniques for a time upon activating/swapping into one of the three stances. The catch is, you can't seal into a draw-out...that is, you can seal the current blade when combat ends or seal the blade by swapping to another sword but doing that means you just swapped without using the iaido draw-out technique. Basically, at any given time during combat, you can only have 2 sealed blades at a time thus 2 sets of draw-out abilities with exception of the start of combat so long as the previous battle ended with 2 sealed blades and you seal your last blade. There could be a high level skill, of course, that can be used out of battle that seals all your blades, useful for boss fights.

    As for what each stance could do, that is where I'm too ignorant of the games' mechanics. But the spirit stance could allow for healing, heal over times, status removal and its draw-out abilities could be a powerful rez skill, defensive utilities like block/parry bonuses, recovery of mp/tp, etc. The technique stance would have unique support abilities centered around TP (like a tp shield that converts hp damage to tp damage, tp recovery, etc) as well as personal defense with the draw-out abilities having movement abilities, a block utility. The savage stance would be simply damaging skills with a debuff to increase party dps and the draw-out abilities being a strong single target attack, an AoE attack and perhaps a personal damage buff.
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    ErdrickLoto's Avatar
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    Lief Katano
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 55
    You didn't, but it's a status effect in this game, which means that it's going to have an icon. There can be a visual indicator of the buff - like Astral Fire or Umbral Ice - but it's going to have an icon.

    I'm not sure how "not having an icon" would suddenly make it so much cooler, anyways. Like...wow! You have a buff that isn't displayed next to your name! How cool is that?! (It isn't, and, presuming it offers bonuses like...say, being your tank stance/dps stance, there's no way that people can see which stance you're in unless they're looking at your weapon...which, given how busy the game can get at times, might not always be an option.)
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    If the Garlean sheath is actually a hint towards the Samurai class, it's possible they might wield elemental blades. In FFXI they had 3 elemental Tachi, Goten, Kagero and Jinpu or Lightning, Fire, Wind. The way his sheath potentially works is that it's infused with those elements, or maybe one of the other 3 not mentioned and it temporarily imbues his blade for certain actions.


    When you think Samurai one of the traditional styles which appears to be called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iaido . Gave me the idea that perhaps what a Samurai could do as a DPS is draw from one of the 3 elements which would open up unique effects with certain combos, but the longer they stay in their elemental stance for the weaker their overall capabilities will be and they would need to sheath to recharge their elemental blade.

    So imagine having something like Iaido:Goten imbues blade with lightning attributes raising crit hit rate but reduces effect with each weaponskill used. So maybe at 30 you start with 5 charges and by 50 you gain 8 charges, but you obtain abilities that allow you to imbue more mana into your blade to add charges but the cost would be more than starting fresh however it doesn't break combo.

    So if you close your eyes and think about it Samurai would be about picking a Iaido to start off with then following through the combo until the effect wears off or you swap into a different Iaido and with "Meditate" ability, it could restore both MP and TP to self. At 50+ new combos could be introduced that requires you to change your element mid-combo but the give and take of switching your elemental blade is the mana cost behind it, similar to how Dark Arts can get costly if you keep using it. Some combos that come to mind in that respect would be Brushfire fire that follows up with Wind to create an AOE DoT, Thunderstorm wind that follows up with lightning to deal heavy AOE dmg, and Burnout, lightning that follows up with fire to deal heavy single target damage, the idea being that the lightning would burn the target from the inside and then the flames would burn the target on the outside.

    We'll know what the two jobs are in due time though, but speculation is fun here and there, I'm just personally hoping that the playlist/animation for Samurai plays off with the fluid motion of the blade that you then reset when you change stance.
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    Balipu's Avatar
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Phoenix
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Following up from that you could have different skills for drawing one particular sword, with longer cast time but stronger effects. Mirroring Cyan's Bushido in FFVI.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I guess i am just not as obsessed with having Sam, but would rather have Dancer, lol
    Sam if it does in fact happen i would prefer as dps and Red Mage for tank
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I don't really understand why people keep thinking Zenos Yae Galvus is being considered a Samurai. He is the XIIth Legion Legatus his title is his job... In my head, he is simply wearing weapons taken as trophies. Every Legatus so far has had gun like aspects to current weapons.







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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    I don't really understand why people keep thinking Zenos Yae Galvus is being considered a Samurai. He is the XIIth Legion Legatus his title is his job... In my head, he is simply wearing weapons taken as trophies. Every Legatus so far has had gun like aspects to current weapons.







    perfect time to add katanas since gun katanas are gonna be a thing yeah?
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    I guess i am just not as obsessed with having Sam, but would rather have Dancer, lol
    Sam if it does in fact happen i would prefer as dps and Red Mage for tank
    I don't see it happening but I would love RDM to be a tank.
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    I don't see it happening but I would love RDM to be a tank.
    I think both Red Mage and Dancer could fill all three roles. A helaler samurai would be a little odd but if it happened I would switch mains from ninja to it and never ever switch again.
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    Shippuu Nammuu
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Zenos could very well be hinting towards a samurai confirmation but not in the sense most people might assume. Regula was introduced and uses a great sword and while his basic combat stance is unique most of his attack animations are the same as Dark Knight. As such, their choice for Zenos to use a scabbard and katana like weapon could have been a design decision for him to similarly re-use animation assets created for a samurai job.
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