Ravanna and Bismarck Normal Modes Should be in Leveling Roulette

[Darrt]

These trials are not at the level cap and do not provide any tomes so shouldn't they be in leveling roulette like the first trials of Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda?

[MikeWW]

YEs, Ravanna is a long fight that pretty ballerina cockroach is very sturdy.

[Kaurie]

I agree, but I think the issue is something to do with how they code roulettes and party composition. These fights require 8 players, vs all other (incl titan/garuda/ifrit NM) leveling roulette instances require 4 players.

[Dzian]

I agree, but I think the issue is something to do with how they code roulettes and party composition. These fights require 8 players, vs all other (incl titan/garuda/ifrit NM) leveling roulette instances require 4 players.

I'd say there's likely some truth in this. it's like if you do the guildhest roulette you literally never get the 8man hest. even if 4 dps and 2 healers queued for the roulette soon as one tank joins it'll split the dps and healers to make a 4 man group and get them in.. it won't wait for a second tank when it can make a full group of 4

can imagine trials would do the same.

[Magic-Mal]

IMO there shouldn't be any trials in leveling roulette because you lose so much exp that way it's a total loss if you get them. I hate getting Ifrit, lose so much exp.. Those trials should be in the trial roulette. And trial roulettes should be unlocked at lv34 when you get Titan. When I do leveling roulette I want to get dungeons so I can level up and fill challenge log. Trials do neither.

[Dzian]

IMO there shouldn't be any trials in leveling roulette because you lose so much exp that way it's a total loss if you get them. I hate getting Ifrit, lose so much exp.. Those trials should be in the trial roulette. And trial roulettes should be unlocked at lv34 when you get Titan. When I do leveling roulette I want to get dungeons so I can level up and fill challenge log. Trials do neither.

you don't "really" lose anything when you land ifrit normal for levelling. you get a massive bonus when you kill it based on your level. if you're 58-59 for example you get something like 650-700k exp bonus for a 3-4 minute fight. it's almost the equivelant of a full run of the vault

[Vasala]

I just wish they would fix it so the trials in leveling roulette would count for completion for the challenge log, wondrous tails, etc.

[Magic-Mal]

you don't "really" lose anything when you land ifrit normal for levelling. you get a massive bonus when you kill it based on your level. if you're 58-59 for example you get something like 650-700k exp bonus for a 3-4 minute fight. it's almost the equivelant of a full run of the vault

As a low level you get so much less. AND Trials don't fill any of your challenge log(dungeon) entries. Because that was made for dungeons. Not trials.

[Alberel]

As a low level you get so much less. AND Trials don't fill any of your challenge log(dungeon) entries. Because that was made for dungeons. Not trials.

On a exp/time ratio the likes of Ifrit NM for levelling roulette is quite literally the best XP possible in the game. You don't lose anything because you clear it in a couple of minutes and have loads of time left to do anything else to get additional exp.