We Want SAM... <make it happen>

[Alacran]

A fun little anime amv i found (full of anime silliness, i actually enjoy that aspect) of what appears to be a Samurai in a multitude of fight scenes. I have yet to see the series myself but it seems like someone felt good old Guts needed a rival with a Katana.(lots of blood)

Character: Shimazu Toyohisa
Anime: Drifters

Hope you enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlwzzCRWzxA

[Lufir]

I've always thought Samurai should be a tank. The appearance alone of Samurai armor not only looks heavy, but visually you can see the protection it offers. At least that's what I observed at our museum There is a good chance it will be DPS, though. I just hate the typical Samurai from over the top animes being overtly angry, bloodthirsty, reckless, and overpowered.

[Alacran]

I've always thought Samurai should be a tank. The appearance alone of Samurai armor not only looks heavy, but visually you can see the protection it offers. At least that's what I observed at our museum There is a good chance it will be DPS, though. I just hate the typical Samurai from over the top animes being overtly angry, bloodthirsty, reckless, and overpowered.

I agree mostly, however many of the "we need a sword DPS!" crowd favor over the top anime characters over accurate historical representations...




To them this is standard all Samurai should aspire to. What he did in his manga, anime, film... being more important and noteworthy than what Honda Tadakatsu, Saito Musashibo Benkei, and Tomoe Gozen were ever able to accomplish. Never mind what armor they would have actually used in battle.



In looking to historical depictions lets not forget, as much as I will celebrate the honor of Bushido and it's tenants (as i do Chivalry), swords do bloody work, the men that used swords are/ were violent men. Samurai engaged in head collecting as a time honored tradition and used it not only show their valor in battle but gain status. In short being blood thirsty was the way of life for all on the frontline.

[ADVSS]

the bottom picture is pretty much what a FINAL FANTASY SAMURAI AF gear looks like/ Traditional having Masamune Darw's family rest (halfmoon) on the helmet. Could be shoehorned as a dps in the veign of dragoon, or a tank competing wth WaR

Games that didnt follow the job system did have differing looks for characters you could call samurai,
the top pic looks like what everyone would just glamour it to anyway

[Balipu]

Not this crap again. So everyone who would be fine with Samurai being a DPS is pissing over japanese culture. Seven hells. For the record I only care about the lore behind them (is it good?) and the way they behave in combat (is it fun?). It's pretty dumb that we don't have a sword DPS with a sword being the DPS icon, but we will probably get that with Red Mage anyway. I still prefer samurai not to be a tank, because I'm not particularly good at tanking, but I guess I'll have to practice more.

[ADVSS]

Not this crap again. So everyone who would be fine with Samurai being a DPS is pissing over japanese culture. Seven hells. For the record I only care about the lore behind them (is it good?) and the way they behave in combat (is it fun?). It's pretty dumb that we don't have a sword DPS with a sword being the DPS icon, but we will probably get that with Red Mage anyway. I still prefer samurai not to be a tank, because I'm not particularly good at tanking, but I guess I'll have to practice more.

if they make it a tank, and not a drg-like dps wearing medium heavy armor, then its focus will probably be high damage, and probably debilitations outside of tank stance, it will probably feel like a dps or could even rival dps damage imo so i am ok with it if it has to be a tank. For sure the tanks resources with jobs are running low by now, at least from the classic ff jobs

[ErdrickLoto]

if they make it a tank, and not a drg-like dps wearing medium heavy armor, then its focus will probably be high damage, and probably debilitations outside of tank stance, it will probably feel like a dps or could even rival dps damage imo so i am ok with it if it has to be a tank. For sure the tanks resources with jobs are running low by now, at least from the classic ff jobs

The problem with a focus on high damage is that a lot of players are going to want to have a SAM in their group due to the heavy focus on DPS in the game, much to the detriment of the other tanks. Having it rival dps damage potential is even worse, because then you'll have 3(light party)/5(full party) DPS, one of which can actually survive.

It's like WAR but worse.

[RobbieH]

It's like WAR but worse.

How's it worse if we don't even know anything about it let alone if it's going to happen?

It could be another High DPS Tank, just like WAR, if this was to happen however, DRK would probably be left out, but that's how things are, the more variety the more jobs will be left out.

[ErdrickLoto]

How's it worse if we don't even know anything about it let alone if it's going to happen?

It could be another High DPS Tank, just like WAR, if this was to happen however, DRK would probably be left out, but that's how things are, the more variety the more jobs will be left out.

Besides the meta of the game being "having a hard-on for more dps"?

[ADVSS]

The problem with a focus on high damage is that a lot of players are going to want to have a SAM in their group due to the heavy focus on DPS in the game, much to the detriment of the other tanks. Having it rival dps damage potential is even worse, because then you'll have 3(light party)/5(full party) DPS, one of which can actually survive.

It's like WAR but worse.

I mean in all honesty the next healer/tank will probably be made to compete with WAR/SCH

i agree with the dps thing, but seriously design a new tank that could compete with war as ot, reliably be able to mt and offer something that isnt high dps that would make it a consideration. pretty hard to do if you ask me.
even then it seems like the only way to really deter a war/sam comp at that point is to only offer it the same utility war offers non-stackable, and even then...
perhaps theyll juggle around abilities on all the tanks and make it closer, but that could turn out super bland