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  1. #161
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    Lumis_Arvalo's Avatar
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    Lumis Arvalo
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    It's possible Blue Mage might be able to fill all three job roles. Considering the Logos system in Pyros is going to allow you to slot in passive abilities as well as actives, I'd say Blue Mage might work based off a similar system (Logos might be the prototype for a system they are going to expand on for Blue Mage) and depending on what is "slotted in" your party role will change.
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  2. #162
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Nah, if he were to exist it will be a magic/war dps, he'll learn monster ability during his job quest and will fonction like every other job in the game but for his own mecanism.

    Its not much about how it can work in game rather than how many player it actualy appeal and how it can be different enough of the other DpS while fonctionning the same.

    Logos system will more likely be useless cause people won't need it for afking between NM nor choose a DpS that heal with logos rather than a heal that can DpS without logos but "hey its here you can heal yourself and solo monster of your level now even as a dps" and that said if its not working only when you are already level max.

    I can't imagine SE actualy thinking about reworking how job work as a whole when they just follow the same patch pattern for 5 years and keep on using the same "Diadem-like" type of instance that failed already twice for Eureka.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 10-31-2018 at 02:21 AM.

  3. #163
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    I doubt Logos is going to be applied outside of Eureka. If anything they seem to be shying away from any form of customization by just giving us all ten cross role skills for our roles instead of making us pick 5.
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  4. #164
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    Met Rhukon
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 80
    We're not going to get something that can reliably slot into multiple roles, the trinity is too strict for that and any changes would require a ground up rework. Closest we'll get is similar to Red Mage where it can maybe take the job of a healer for a handful of GCDs if needed, but you're not going in with a SCH/RDM combo.

    It would be too strong if it could fill any role reliably, and too weak at specific things if it was balanced around it. Why take a BLU for damage if it's pulling tank numbers? Or a BLU for healing if it's only got 1/3 a kit?
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  5. #165
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    Julis Slivers
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    Blue don't really play all role omg i'll say it again FF11 was broken any i said any class in tht game can play any role because of sub class also any class could tank because of battle system thy had if thy remove tht battle system Blue would die easy because there defense wasn't like pld and warrior ya we could buff it but till no like pld so stop trying to put stuff on a awesome class because u may hte it because it was the only class in the game everyone loved because everyone had different spells on there spell list set up thts wat most ppl hted blu mage can do this but dancer Can't blue mage can do this be warrior Can't etc get over blue mage wat pulled alot of ppl to play thn thy played blue mage get bored thn play different class after everytime me and my sis log in we was on blue mage thn sometimes she switch to thf to farm if i had to say a class op it would be thf/ dnc thf/nin or arc blue mage sometimes couldn't do damage because of mobs had high resistance to thm so stop it blue mage was balance only thing abt blue mage it was super fun thn any class because of how it was made i didn't hve to use spells like everyone else and Tht's awesome but other classes was awesome too so i'm not going to down thm but still we all just need to stop trying to make something look op whn its not Tht's wat break games the most your big mouth crying abt something in a game thn whn thy nerf thm thn u smile if its not your favor class switch is stupid if u so awesome over come blue mage and kill it just like thy did in FF11 tht too show hope blue mage wasn't to OP ninja vs blue mage or warrior/ ninja vs blue mage come on also uf blue mage Could play more roles tht Would help Queue up basic on how u build your blue mage tht would be awesome tht many we have 3 roles in one class but blue mage Can't be a main healer and i for am sure as hell it Can't be a healer look it up u will see or go play blue mage try to main heal watch wat happen thn u will see its not really all 3 roles its like a support dps melee mage
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    Last edited by Starcake28; 11-01-2018 at 06:22 PM.

  6. #166
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    Also thy can add it early and do it just like ninja
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  7. #167
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    I mean, just playing Devil's Advocate here, but you could totally use blue magic as your primary healing force in a fair few FF games. White Wind, Angel's Whisper, and Mighty Guard are pretty strong.
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  8. #168
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcake28 View Post
    Blue don't really play all role omg i'll say it again FF11 was broken any i said any class in tht game can play any role because of sub class also any class could tank because of battle system thy had if thy remove tht battle system Blue would die easy because there defense wasn't like pld and warrior ya we could buff it but till no like pld so stop trying to put stuff on a awesome class because u may hte it because it was the only class in the game everyone loved because everyone had different spells on there spell list set up thts wat most ppl hted blu mage can do this but dancer Can't blue mage can do this be warrior Can't etc get over blue mage wat pulled alot of ppl to play thn thy played blue mage get bored thn play different class after everytime me and my sis log in we was on blue mage thn sometimes she switch to thf to farm if i had to say a class op it would be thf/ dnc thf/nin or arc blue mage sometimes couldn't do damage because of mobs had high resistance to thm so stop it blue mage was balance only thing abt blue mage it was super fun thn any class because of how it was made i didn't hve to use spells like everyone else and Tht's awesome but other classes was awesome too so i'm not going to down thm but still we all just need to stop trying to make something look op whn its not Tht's wat break games the most your big mouth crying abt something in a game thn whn thy nerf thm thn u smile if its not your favor class switch is stupid if u so awesome over come blue mage and kill it just like thy did in FF11 tht too show hope blue mage wasn't to OP ninja vs blue mage or warrior/ ninja vs blue mage come on also uf blue mage Could play more roles tht Would help Queue up basic on how u build your blue mage tht would be awesome tht many we have 3 roles in one class but blue mage Can't be a main healer and i for am sure as hell it Can't be a healer look it up u will see or go play blue mage try to main heal watch wat happen thn u will see its not really all 3 roles its like a support dps melee mage
    Having a really hard time parsing what you're trying to say here.
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metsonm View Post
    I mean, just playing Devil's Advocate here, but you could totally use blue magic as your primary healing force in a fair few FF games. White Wind, Angel's Whisper, and Mighty Guard are pretty strong.
    Blue magic has been a pretty mixed bad in most games but they haven't been restricted by the trinity or the need to balance the skills so they could make it a healer but I think getting it to actually work would involve adding in a lot of mundane skills that would probably break the idea of the class (might be a good class ingame).
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcake28 View Post
    Also thy can add it early and do it just like ninja
    Apparently, there's a "leak" that suggested we might get BLU in 4.5. I'd take that with a grain of salt, however. The same leak said it'd be a DPS class.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Having a really hard time parsing what you're trying to say here.
    Nary a period or comma to be found! I was kind of surprised to see apostrophes and capitalization.
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