How Blue Mage Could Exist in FFXIV

[Metsonm]

We're not going to get something that can reliably slot into multiple roles, the trinity is too strict for that and any changes would require a ground up rework. Closest we'll get is similar to Red Mage where it can maybe take the job of a healer for a handful of GCDs if needed, but you're not going in with a SCH/RDM combo.

It would be too strong if it could fill any role reliably, and too weak at specific things if it was balanced around it. Why take a BLU for damage if it's pulling tank numbers? Or a BLU for healing if it's only got 1/3 a kit?

[Starcake28]

Blue don't really play all role omg i'll say it again FF11 was broken any i said any class in tht game can play any role because of sub class also any class could tank because of battle system thy had if thy remove tht battle system Blue would die easy because there defense wasn't like pld and warrior ya we could buff it but till no like pld so stop trying to put stuff on a awesome class because u may hte it because it was the only class in the game everyone loved because everyone had different spells on there spell list set up thts wat most ppl hted blu mage can do this but dancer Can't blue mage can do this be warrior Can't etc get over blue mage wat pulled alot of ppl to play thn thy played blue mage get bored thn play different class after everytime me and my sis log in we was on blue mage thn sometimes she switch to thf to farm if i had to say a class op it would be thf/ dnc thf/nin or arc blue mage sometimes couldn't do damage because of mobs had high resistance to thm so stop it blue mage was balance only thing abt blue mage it was super fun thn any class because of how it was made i didn't hve to use spells like everyone else and Tht's awesome but other classes was awesome too so i'm not going to down thm but still we all just need to stop trying to make something look op whn its not Tht's wat break games the most your big mouth crying abt something in a game thn whn thy nerf thm thn u smile if its not your favor class switch is stupid if u so awesome over come blue mage and kill it just like thy did in FF11 tht too show hope blue mage wasn't to OP ninja vs blue mage or warrior/ ninja vs blue mage come on also uf blue mage Could play more roles tht Would help Queue up basic on how u build your blue mage tht would be awesome tht many we have 3 roles in one class but blue mage Can't be a main healer and i for am sure as hell it Can't be a healer look it up u will see or go play blue mage try to main heal watch wat happen thn u will see its not really all 3 roles its like a support dps melee mage

[Starcake28]

Also thy can add it early and do it just like ninja

[SilverObi]

Blue don't really play all role omg i'll say it again FF11 was broken any i said any class in tht game can play any role because of sub class also any class could tank because of battle system thy had if thy remove tht battle system Blue would die easy because there defense wasn't like pld and warrior ya we could buff it but till no like pld so stop trying to put stuff on a awesome class because u may hte it because it was the only class in the game everyone loved because everyone had different spells on there spell list set up thts wat most ppl hted blu mage can do this but dancer Can't blue mage can do this be warrior Can't etc get over blue mage wat pulled alot of ppl to play thn thy played blue mage get bored thn play different class after everytime me and my sis log in we was on blue mage thn sometimes she switch to thf to farm if i had to say a class op it would be thf/ dnc thf/nin or arc blue mage sometimes couldn't do damage because of mobs had high resistance to thm so stop it blue mage was balance only thing abt blue mage it was super fun thn any class because of how it was made i didn't hve to use spells like everyone else and Tht's awesome but other classes was awesome too so i'm not going to down thm but still we all just need to stop trying to make something look op whn its not Tht's wat break games the most your big mouth crying abt something in a game thn whn thy nerf thm thn u smile if its not your favor class switch is stupid if u so awesome over come blue mage and kill it just like thy did in FF11 tht too show hope blue mage wasn't to OP ninja vs blue mage or warrior/ ninja vs blue mage come on also uf blue mage Could play more roles tht Would help Queue up basic on how u build your blue mage tht would be awesome tht many we have 3 roles in one class but blue mage Can't be a main healer and i for am sure as hell it Can't be a healer look it up u will see or go play blue mage try to main heal watch wat happen thn u will see its not really all 3 roles its like a support dps melee mage

Having a really hard time parsing what you're trying to say here.

[LineageRazor]

Also thy can add it early and do it just like ninja

Apparently, there's a "leak" that suggested we might get BLU in 4.5. I'd take that with a grain of salt, however. The same leak said it'd be a DPS class.

Having a really hard time parsing what you're trying to say here.

Nary a period or comma to be found! I was kind of surprised to see apostrophes and capitalization.

[Metsonm]

Blue magic has been a pretty mixed bad in most games but they haven't been restricted by the trinity or the need to balance the skills so they could make it a healer but I think getting it to actually work would involve adding in a lot of mundane skills that would probably break the idea of the class (might be a good class ingame).

Yeah, it's covered buffs, debuffs, healing, general support, and damage all pretty comfortably. The thing is we have to look at more than FFXI for what it can and can't do, and Starcake seems pretty set on only pulling from there.

Apparently, there's a "leak" that suggested we might get BLU in 4.5. I'd take that with a grain of salt, however. The same leak said it'd be a DPS class.

There's been some data pulled from a patch a little while back that shows it's been worked on, too. It looks like it was the only new class in the change-log which suggests it could be coming early, but nobody knows how the devs really work so I wouldn't get my hopes up. The same mine also had an unnamed, placeholder class that had spots for caster DPS gear and role actions. So while it's not a 100% confirmation, it seems pretty firmly set.

[Starcake28]

Ya because tht was the best blue mage ever i know thy Can't take everything from FF11. i'm ok with tht but all i'm looking to see is. melee mage dps blue mage with a sword. i'll be Happy and thy hve the spell list where u can set so many spells. like FF11 but in FF14 new way. To set thm up . If u guys look at RDM its a good and awesome set up class. to but thy fell whn it come to weapon skill play but blue mage is a str class not int. so i'm hoping thy fix it right thn. i'll hve my sword mage dps. i know alot of ppl in FF11 and FF 14. tht will jump bk into FF 14. if tht happen u guys just don't understand why. we want tht blue mage even if it feel abit different. but i'll tell u why i keep saying dps blue mage Can't main heal. because alot of its heals have long cast times unlike magic fruit..lol but till tht heal was nothing like cure2 or3 as for tanking it would destroy blue mage completely. because its a mage MAGE in light gear. tanks wear meta so what u asking thm to do is switch blue mage into heavy gear? .... Anyway Tht's wat i'm looking at if we need a tank there or lots of other classes. just not blue mage same for healer geo or dancer but dancer is a BIG??? Because dex/Str from other FF games plus FF11 ^^ Still i understand u all but you need to look at other classes thn thing hard if i really had something to say it would be this there not going to keep adding healers/tanks because thy don't really need alot of thm plus tanks and healer take alot of thinking how thy want thm to work unlike dps u can slap thm together easy can raise damage or lower thm i'm sure there thinking just like me so we will see soon.

[LineageRazor]

but i'll tell u why i keep saying dps blue mage Can't main heal. because alot of its heals have long cast times unlike magic fruit..lol but till tht heal was nothing like cure2 or3 as for tanking it would destroy blue mage completely. because its a mage MAGE in light gear. tanks wear meta so what u asking thm to do is switch blue mage into heavy gear?

If they make BLU a healer, its cure spells will be fast, not long like Magic Fruit in FFXI. If they make BLU a tank, its gear will not be light, it will instead wear heavy armor. Simple as that. They will change the job to fit the role they choose for it.

I agree, though, that whatever role they choose, BLU will not be good at the other roles, and it will also not be able to change roles. If BLU is built as a DPS, it will never be a tank or healer, and there will be no method to give it the ability to become a tank or healer.

BLU will not be nearly as flexible in this game as it's been in others (especially FFXI). All jobs in this game are rigidly fixed in their roles, even if those roles differ from in previous games. BLU will be just the same.

[Starcake28]

Having a really hard time parsing what you're trying to say here.

Sorry wat i said was tht FF11 battle system made it where all classes could tank in FF11 whn u hit lvl 70+ but ppl believe tht blue mage could tank i bet if u play blue mage at lvl 15 - 55 trying to tank you would die everytime because blue mage wasn't a tank at all you looking at traits etc thy got from monsters in game but till there not real tanks Tht's all i'm trying to say same for healing go play blue mage u will see wat i'm talking abt if anything blue mage started off ass dps thn later became a support role but thy still wasn't a big support role thy mostly had spells to keep thm self alive if u look at there spells correctly...

[Reynhart]

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Could you please use punctuation marks, it's really hard to read ? Thanks.