How Blue Mage Could Exist in FFXIV

[Claire_Pendragon]

Probably because Mighty Guard is already implemented in the game as the tank 2-bar Limit Break. I'll give some time to let people go look that up.

I was refering to games outside of FF14.

Getting punched in the face doesn't make them a tank. As I said earlier, they were only slightly more resilient casters. They weren't going to soak hits like your warrior.

BLU had to survive all the hits it took.
This required putting up buffs to make them even more resilient than some of your other party members.
(Of course a Knight with Might Guard on them would take less dmg, but in the end, its like a 20% difference or less)
Depending on the FF, BLU were some of the tankiest mages in the game.
BLUs in FFTA were unkillable with Damage MP on them, as they regen MP every turn. Even if you hit them for 999999999999 they would survive if they have 1 MP, as u cant harm their HP until all MP is gone.
BLU in FF5 were tanky with buffs
Blue Magic in some FFs made some tanky buffs for everyone
BLU in FF explorers is insainly tanky with buffs.
BLU in FFXI were able to tank better than PLDs in most level ranges, with only a small handful of exceptions, again, with buffs.

I never bothered with Strago, to see how good he could ro couldnt be. Mainly because he wasnt built for melee.
Quinna or w/e shes called in 9 started off weak, but became tanky later on. She definitely wasnt a hard hitter, or a good healer, thats for sure. (But didnt go far with her either.)

BLUs have been everything at one point or another.
They have never been JUST a healer, JUST a DPS, Just a tank through out the series.
They usually do excel at one thing, with a mild amount of support at the other things.
(Similar to RDM.)

The ONLY reason you dont use BLU for soaking hits in melee range, is because it requires wasting turns buffing them.
In an MMO/real time combat, everything is different.

This is why they worked as tanks so well in XI and FF explorers.

Which, once again, in FFXIV, they could quite literally be anything, if they so choose, but I would personally rather see them in the tank spot.

[Jandor]

Blue Mage has been pretty different in most of its appearances. The only real constant is that it uses monster abilities.

My only main concern is if it learns them as job abilities and just uses them as CD's, that would be pretty naff tbh. I'd rather it be a unique job mechanic somehow.

[silentwindfr]

i doubt, if the blu come, that you will learn skill directly from monster.
at best, the blu will be something created by garlemald, a manner to use "magic" by copying capacity from monster and use gunblade for launch this capacity. probably a tank, that will use capacity of monster to fortify themself and maybe debuff the enemy for enhance the capacity of his team... a tank buffer, that will be a spot not covered right now.

we have a physical dps tank, a magical dps and resistance tank, a resilient and protective tank. then a support tank will be a nice touch.

plus i doubt we will see another caster dps with sword. then tank will be a nice add...

but who know....

[Kazrah]

I was refering to games outside of FF14.

And this isn't any game outside of FF14. Whole new world means whole new rules.

My only main concern is if it learns them as job abilities and just uses them as CD's, that would be pretty naff tbh. I'd rather it be a unique job mechanic somehow.

So this was the biggest change I had planned. Before I (or anyone for that matter) knew of the mechanics overhaul that came with Stormblood, the only means of implementing such spells for the BLU concept was with by various degrees of cooldowns. Now that we have these fancy new third-resource toys for all our current jobs, Blue Mage wouldn't be any different by implementing a third resource that would allow for the casting of Blue Magic spells.

[Souji_Lashtail]

Going off of silent's bit, it'd be interesting to make BLU a Garlean/Ascian class. Have them using the same Eikon-draining power as Ultima used, on a smaller scale, and have them gain abilities off of the various Primals. Landslide from Titan, Radiant Plume from Ifrit, Wicked Wheel from Garuda, etc. Use a Gauntlet and Gun-hybrid weapon for their arms

[Kazrah]

Going off of silent's bit, it'd be interesting to make BLU a Garlean/Ascian class. Have them using the same Eikon-draining power as Ultima used, on a smaller scale, and have them gain abilities off of the various Primals. Landslide from Titan, Radiant Plume from Ifrit, Wicked Wheel from Garuda, etc. Use a Gauntlet and Gun-hybrid weapon for their arms

Problem with that is that BLU has never been based off of primals. Ever. In fact, all their attacks have been based off of anything out that that kinda isn't a primal.

[Brightshadow]

I have a feeling fordola might be our BLU teacher.

The way the aether behaved around her, and how she could see what her enemies were going to react before attacking screams BLU to me.

[silentwindfr]

i think he did wanted give a concret example, but one thing important they can decide to do the jobs in a way really different of what we know, we must try to keep an open mind, that said, the fact to use monster attack is nice, but do you have a few attack that you think will be nice to use?

without forget drop immediatly the idea to have a gazillion skill, the blu will probably streamlined for have as much skill than the other. since yoshida have said in the past that they can't give a favorite treatment to a jobs over the other.
without forget that the next time we will get jobs, we will have 2 jobs at the same time pushing the number of jobs to 17... (without count crafter and gatherer if you add them we reach 28)

[Dualgunner]

I have a feeling fordola might be our BLU teacher.

The way the aether behaved around her, and how she could see what her enemies were going to react before attacking screams BLU to me.

To be fair her epic dodge skills are essentially what it looks like out of gameplay when we step out of an aoe.

[Souji_Lashtail]

Problem with that is that BLU has never been based off of primals. Ever. In fact, all their attacks have been based off of anything out that that kinda isn't a primal.

I mean, that's true, but in the world of FFXIV, maybe it's been upgraded via Garlean/Allagan/Ascian tech. Doesn't hit the same level of power, but gives you an ability similar. Radiant Plume as a targeted fire AOE, Landslide as a linear push, etc. You'd still get monster attacks, but since a LOT of the FFXIV monsters use similar attacks, it'd be tough to fill the roster.