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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Blue magic has been a pretty mixed bad in most games but they haven't been restricted by the trinity or the need to balance the skills so they could make it a healer but I think getting it to actually work would involve adding in a lot of mundane skills that would probably break the idea of the class (might be a good class ingame).
    Yeah, it's covered buffs, debuffs, healing, general support, and damage all pretty comfortably. The thing is we have to look at more than FFXI for what it can and can't do, and Starcake seems pretty set on only pulling from there.

    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Apparently, there's a "leak" that suggested we might get BLU in 4.5. I'd take that with a grain of salt, however. The same leak said it'd be a DPS class.
    There's been some data pulled from a patch a little while back that shows it's been worked on, too. It looks like it was the only new class in the change-log which suggests it could be coming early, but nobody knows how the devs really work so I wouldn't get my hopes up. The same mine also had an unnamed, placeholder class that had spots for caster DPS gear and role actions. So while it's not a 100% confirmation, it seems pretty firmly set.
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  2. #172
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    Julis Slivers
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    Coeurl
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    Ya because tht was the best blue mage ever i know thy Can't take everything from FF11. i'm ok with tht but all i'm looking to see is. melee mage dps blue mage with a sword. i'll be Happy and thy hve the spell list where u can set so many spells. like FF11 but in FF14 new way. To set thm up . If u guys look at RDM its a good and awesome set up class. to but thy fell whn it come to weapon skill play but blue mage is a str class not int. so i'm hoping thy fix it right thn. i'll hve my sword mage dps. i know alot of ppl in FF11 and FF 14. tht will jump bk into FF 14. if tht happen u guys just don't understand why. we want tht blue mage even if it feel abit different. but i'll tell u why i keep saying dps blue mage Can't main heal. because alot of its heals have long cast times unlike magic fruit..lol but till tht heal was nothing like cure2 or3 as for tanking it would destroy blue mage completely. because its a mage MAGE in light gear. tanks wear meta so what u asking thm to do is switch blue mage into heavy gear? .... Anyway Tht's wat i'm looking at if we need a tank there or lots of other classes. just not blue mage same for healer geo or dancer but dancer is a BIG??? Because dex/Str from other FF games plus FF11 ^^ Still i understand u all but you need to look at other classes thn thing hard if i really had something to say it would be this there not going to keep adding healers/tanks because thy don't really need alot of thm plus tanks and healer take alot of thinking how thy want thm to work unlike dps u can slap thm together easy can raise damage or lower thm i'm sure there thinking just like me so we will see soon.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Having a really hard time parsing what you're trying to say here.
    Sorry wat i said was tht FF11 battle system made it where all classes could tank in FF11 whn u hit lvl 70+ but ppl believe tht blue mage could tank i bet if u play blue mage at lvl 15 - 55 trying to tank you would die everytime because blue mage wasn't a tank at all you looking at traits etc thy got from monsters in game but till there not real tanks Tht's all i'm trying to say same for healing go play blue mage u will see wat i'm talking abt if anything blue mage started off ass dps thn later became a support role but thy still wasn't a big support role thy mostly had spells to keep thm self alive if u look at there spells correctly...
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcake28 View Post
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    Could you please use punctuation marks, it's really hard to read ? Thanks.
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcake28 View Post
    but i'll tell u why i keep saying dps blue mage Can't main heal. because alot of its heals have long cast times unlike magic fruit..lol but till tht heal was nothing like cure2 or3 as for tanking it would destroy blue mage completely. because its a mage MAGE in light gear. tanks wear meta so what u asking thm to do is switch blue mage into heavy gear?
    If they make BLU a healer, its cure spells will be fast, not long like Magic Fruit in FFXI. If they make BLU a tank, its gear will not be light, it will instead wear heavy armor. Simple as that. They will change the job to fit the role they choose for it.

    I agree, though, that whatever role they choose, BLU will not be good at the other roles, and it will also not be able to change roles. If BLU is built as a DPS, it will never be a tank or healer, and there will be no method to give it the ability to become a tank or healer.

    BLU will not be nearly as flexible in this game as it's been in others (especially FFXI). All jobs in this game are rigidly fixed in their roles, even if those roles differ from in previous games. BLU will be just the same.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    If they make BLU a healer, its cure spells will be fast, not long like Magic Fruit in FFXI. If they make BLU a tank, its gear will not be light, it will instead wear heavy armor. Simple as that. They will change the job to fit the role they choose for it.

    I agree, though, that whatever role they choose, BLU will not be good at the other roles, and it will also not be able to change roles. If BLU is built as a DPS, it will never be a tank or healer, and there will be no method to give it the ability to become a tank or healer.

    BLU will not be nearly as flexible in this game as it's been in others (especially FFXI). All jobs in this game are rigidly fixed in their roles, even if those roles differ from in previous games. BLU will be just the same.
    Ya but it can still be the blue from FF11 even if the change happen just give thm sword and spells on different cooldowns like ninja if i use a weapon skill my spell can be used still but u Can't use a weapon skill if casting a blue mage spell u hve to wait till u release the spell thn use weapon skills etc
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  7. #177
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    THANK YOU YOSHIP AND DEVS! THANK YOU SO MUCH! so hyped to play it Yokozawa!
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    Last edited by Astarotha; 11-17-2018 at 04:55 AM.

  8. #178
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    Better inform me OP if he hasn't seen it already.
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  9. #179
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    i mean it could work where there's a whole bunch of skills and you slot them and get different traits and playstyles. could also have "healer/tank/dps" setlists with different abilities slotted for each one depending on what you want to queue as and be unable to change on the fly.
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  10. #180
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    So i was right blue mage gunblade which thy showed in tht shadowbringers trailer and dark knight getting revamp and i also said thy may add it before 5.0 lol and u hve to learn skills from enemy yaaaa so Tht's a plus but question is. Blue mage looking like black mage alittle bit unless There is a sword inside tht weapon he using also from tht video it almost like like white mage play style hope i'm wrong but will see soon
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