[petition] PS4 framerate

[Amnesiac]

I sometimes wonder if it would be better to play the game on my gaming laptop (MSI GE62 6QD Apache Pro) or on my PS4. I'm unfortunately not too computer savvy, but I do know for one that it was not a smart decision to spend thousands on getting the new generation consoles and a gaming laptop instead of building a monster PC.

[Lisotte]

FPS is terrible on PC too, that's just how it always is in cities in MMO's.

[CGMidlander]

According to Wikipedia, the PS4 CPU Runs at 1.6Ghz which is pretty low, my CPU is overclocked at 4.2Ghz, and in MMOs the higher the frequency the better, simply because most MMOs run in single threads, if you go compare benchmarks of new CPUs with previous Gen CPUs, and you compare new one with say, 3.6Ghz and the older one with 4.0Ghz the single thread benchmarks are better on the higher frequency CPU.

I'm not saying your computer is slower than a PS4 (because it isn't), but you can't really compare PC specs to console specs in an apples to apples manner because the amount of software overhead is significantly different for both platforms.

[RobbieH]

I'm not saying your computer is slower than a PS4 (because it isn't), but you can't really compare PC specs to console specs in an apples to apples manner because the amount of software overhead is significantly different for both platforms.

Yet the PS4 uses the PC client (according to people on this forum), hence why i said that.

[Kosmos992k]

Yet the PS4 uses the PC client (according to people on this forum), hence why i said that.

It's a branch of the same code base. Clearly though since PC uses DX11 and PS4 uses totally different - but equivalent - libraries, it's not the same client.

[SigmaOZ]

PS4 limitations!...

Please upgrade to a PC at your earliest convenience or alternatively wait until the PS5 is released!...

[yotsuffy]

Ho

I play on console because:
1) it is plug&play (no drivers, optimisation, etc. to deal with)
2) it is a fixed known build (developers can optimize themselves and stick to it)
3) I can afford it!

PS4 Pro
For all I know yet, the PS4 Pro is "just" a PS4 allowing nicer screenshots. It won't really change how a game runs, ie. no real framerate improvement. No official talks about better framerate; just mention it and quickly skip to HDR/4k.
Buying a PS4 Pro while I already have a PS4 would be wasting money: we must search for every "enhanced" game what it offers. We don't know what the Pro will offer for each and every game to come... I can't buy another PS4 with just this for sure. Especially if I must buy "that good TV set because that good TV set does HDR well". Even the TV can spoil the "PS4 Pro experience"...
Also, I hear everywhere: "you must see HDR to understand" and yet, NO ONE shoots an HDR TV to show it. How can't it be possible to JUST shoot 2 TV sets - one HDR, one non-HDR - and mix them together for side-by-side comparison?!

FFXIV
Whether on PS4 or PC, it seems players can't keep a good framerate everywhere. This means one thing: only developers can change this.

So please! Support this topic

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[petition] PS4 framerate
1080p60 cheap pc build

[RobbieH]

Thanks for me calling me "Stupid" then. I play FFXIV on my Computer while I do play other Games on my PS4 but ya, nothing else on my Computer as it is mainly used for other stuff.

I highly doubt you have two GTX1080 and a 6950X, even if you did, why would you buy it to play FFXIV only? Even for rendering you don't need that setup, i don't see a scenario where that setup is beneficial at all besides 4k Gaming.

Just a Tip : The PS3 makes use of more than 256MB RAM, I have no clue at all where People get that Number....

*256 MB XDR DRAM and 256 MB GDDR3 Video RAM* There you have it. Understand how Consoles are built and how Hardware of said Consoles work. Pointless to discuss this.

I guess you don't know the difference between those two: http://jacksondunstan.com/articles/2068

All I heard from this is blah blah blah PC Master Race *snort* blah blah blah....

You do realize close to half the subs for the game quite possibly be "console peasants" right? get off your high horse and maybe catch some sunlight.

Please don't start BS, you pick a comment to troll on and you don't read my other comments, like i said i have a PS4, do you want me to take a picture next to your flaming comment and post here?

I made a comparison with a powerful PC GPU and an upcoming console that costs almost as half of what the GPU does so people have an idea of their performance, and you come here to trash talk, you seem like a nice person.

With your childish attitude you seem to be the one in need to catch sunlight.

Whether on PS4 or PC, it seems players can't keep a good framerate everywhere.

I don't go below 60FPS unless i'm in Towns, i don't know if there's this option on PS4, but on PC there's an option to limit the number of players visible, so even in Towns on PC i can maintain 60FPS if i limit the amount of characters displayed.

[Mwynn]

I guess you don't know the difference between those two: http://jacksondunstan.com/articles/2068

Nice to see the Comments in that Page proving you wrong. Again, Computers and Console compute Processings and Visuals different.
If you've no Clue, see how PCSX2 was Developed and the PS3 does the same thing, the same for the PS4.

While it is true both the PC and Console follow almost the same Process, the Console does it way more complicated.

You really should take a look into their "Reports" to even get "some" Knowledge about Consoles themselves and how they operate.
Just because a Console "may" run on a 86x Architecture doesn't mean it is a entire "PC" based on said Hardware, but that you should have figured out already.

Plus why do you try to prove me wrong?
You just gave me a Link telling me the PS3 has 256 MB Ram and Video Ram, that's exactly what I meant and dependend what the PS3 needs to draw/call for, said Memory will be allocated there.

But Dear, you seem to work for Sony and you know the PS3 / PS4 at it's fullest, I give you that *clap clap*
Last Post to be honest, this just goes on and on and I do not see any Point in doing this.

[RobbieH]

Nice to see the Comments in that Page proving you wrong.

Really? How so?

If you've no Clue, see how PCSX2 was Developed and the PS3 does the same thing, the same for the PS4.

How can the PCSX2 and PS3 be developed the same way as an emulator meant to run on PC, which you just pointed out processes things differently from consoles? You just contradicted yourself.

You really should take a look into their "Reports" to even get "some" Knowledge about Consoles themselves and how they operate.
Just because a Console "may" run on a 86x Architecture doesn't mean it is a entire "PC" based on said Hardware, but that you should have figured out already.

Consoles are not PC but the PS4 is a much closer to one than the PS3 ever was, the PS4 however for example doesn't have DirectX because it's Microsoft proprietary (not because it can't handle it) and the PS4 doesn't run Windows to begin with therefor it's already different from what the PC provides in terms of API, even if it was Linux it wouldn't have DX but OpenGL instead.

You just gave me a Link telling me the PS3 has 256 MB Ram and Video Ram, that's exactly what I meant and dependend what the PS3 needs to draw/call for, said Memory will be allocated there.

Uh? No i didn't? The link i gave you was to explain the differences between RAM and VRAM?

But Dear, you seem to work for Sony and you know the PS3 / PS4 at it's fullest, I give you that *clap clap*

I say the same of you, so we're... even?

PS: Still waiting for your proof of having two GTX1080 and a 6950X.