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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Not necessarily, all they would have to do is ask SE to heavily censor and make a special version for Switch users that's localized and edited enough where all of that is covered with fluffy sprinkles and cotton candy nonsense. And we all know that Nintendo would ask that to be done too. I think you underestimate Nintendo's persistence to have their demands met and SE's love of extra income from other companies as the bait and motivation to allow it.
    Well, Nintendo changed a lot in the last few years. We now have brands like bayonetta, and some recent games (arms and even botw) are clearly trying to cater to a more adult and /or "naughty" audience.

    That's not the problem though, since ffxiv has very low chances of being ported to the switch in the first place for obvious technical reasons.

    One thing to consider is that if a switch version is released, it needs to be playable in both docked and portable mode. I don't think that some content in the game (like eureka and 24-man raids) can run on the switch in portable mode, not even if everything is severely downgraded until it looks like a ps1 game. We don't even know if the luminous engine is compatible with the console.

    Another important thing: if ffxiv is released on the switch, it means that future expansions should be developed for the switch too. This means ZERO room for technical improvement for the next 4 years at the very least.

    I feel like people wishing for a switch port don't really care about the game and only care about the console.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
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    I agree with much of what you said, Nintendo owns Fatal Frame as an IP from Koei Tecmo and it's filled with ghosts, girls in bikini, stories of torture, homicide and rituals, and then the console now has Dark Souls, promoted by Nintendo with an Amiibo and whatnot, and other examples like Bayonetta etc. so I can't see where someone who tries to reason with that are coming from other than not being up to date with the subject.

    It's true that there would be more room for tech specs improvement in the game, but it may not be where the game is headed, since Yoshi in this recent interview seemed more interested in other aspects of visual improvement rather than tech specs:



    But then again, even if they tried to push forward in the tech specs, they would risk losing the players who yet remain on the PS4 for possibly a long while after the next generation consoles release. And yet again, Yoshi keeps saying that they want the game to be playing through as many platforms as possible, and the Switch has a considerable amount of players I'm guessing SE may want to include in their player base. So from what I see, they would either try to make it playable on every console including the Switch to keep the low, average and the high tech spec hardware players or just abandon the people who could not afford to play FFXIV due to the decision to keep the game for a higher spec hardware player base. From Yoshi's words, that they want to keep it on as many platforms as possible, I understand that Yoshi is more interested in the availability rather than the increase in graphical fidelity.

    As for how you feel regarding people who want the game to be on the Switch being people who don't care about the game and just care about the console, I don't agree with it, simply because I myself, may have a different perspective as to what may be beneficial to it in the long run and if Yoshi and his team see that it is the right thing to do due to the business and marketing strategies they wish to make for the sake of the game, even if it means gaining more audience through sacrificing a matter for another, I support. Not everyone is a crazed Nintendo fanatic simply because he/she wants the game on the platform, it may just be that they simply don't agree with you,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    Well, Nintendo changed a lot in the last few years. We now have brands like bayonetta, and some recent games (arms and even botw) are clearly trying to cater to a more adult and /or "naughty" audience.
    Ah, you're right. I almost forgot about Bayonetta and whatnot. Good call.

    I feel like people wishing for a switch port don't really care about the game and only care about the console.
    Yea, that's how I feel too, so I can understand you there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Husain View Post
    And I'm sorry that you don't always have things the way you want them to be in life and that you're not the center of the world.
    Actually, that comment would be more fitting for you since you keep rehashing the same, tired, old line that the Switch would be possible simply because Yoshi was in talks about doing it and running that as a 100% certainty when it's not while ignoring mostly what everyone else has been saying and that it just wouldn't technically be there as the main reasoning among other estimates.

    As much as you see your side as being logical, I see mine as being logical too.
    You're not being logical, you're just being hopeful and wishful thinking because you want something that has been proven to not technically work, and you don't want to hear that from others. You're also using your opinion as an excuse to be extremely rude and condescending towards someone else that doesn't share the same opinion as you when I haven't done either of those things to you in response so far. The world doesn't revolve around what you want on the forums either, maybe you're the one who needs to learn that life lesson and not respond poorly when someone tells you "no."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And 32 bit operating systems haven't been the standard for a long time.
    Yoshi showed that only 1.87% of players use the 32-bit version so they decided to end support.

    This allows them to get past a 2gb limit and use as much memory the system has to offer. The 32-bit version can only address 25% of the memory which the PS4 edition can address so it’s a major limitation.

    As for the switch, it’s in the same league as the PS3 in terms of power so it’s not gong to happen. We would see a cellphone version before a switch version.
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    @Kurrando obviously we are not going to see eye to eye on topic, also just let the ERPers have their fun and do not ban them.


    @Lastelli I was referring to how some some eastern countries have more stable internet connection for their MMOs and that was my fault for not being extra specific.


    @Driavna I agree with you that censorship is not a good thing because it means we cannot have discussions like this on the forums and what have you.
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    It wont happen for the same reason its not on XBox One. Exclusivity. This is why you can play FFXIV on PS4 without PS+ if it were to go on to either console and for this youll have to suspend reality for a sec. IF it were to be ported to the switch or xbone then you would NEED PS+ and even then we wouldnt be able to play with people on the other consoles and to that extent pc users.
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    I'm actually against this being on switch. I love my switch BUT I dont think FFXIV would benefit overall. It would be like bringing the PS3 back into the fold. I just dont feel like the Switch has the capabilities in terms of system and memory capacity which was the issue the PS3 had, and to some extent even the PS4. I want to see XIV get better, not go in reverse.
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    Ps4 pc Mac all x86 based switch is arm... Lots of work to make this happen. It's why switch ports take so long.
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    As long as Switch port doesn't affect the game (as example, introducing the well know "limitations" we suffered for keeping up the PS3 in line), I've nothing against a swich port and I think we can play there 30fps, because all assets will be tuned down for its hardware.

    I did recently read an interview to Yoshida where he made clear that "tuning up" the graphics will be a huge cost because it have to rework everything graphic, while tuning down is much more simple and that was one of the things that helped made ARR get to life. So if a switch version comes up, I expect a tuned down graphic in order to make the game play smooth 30fps in all situations, without introduce limitations.

    Maybe we will likely can see XIV into a "switch 2" console, given the time it passed from switch release.
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    I would leave it to the most knowledgeable of the situation, namely Yoshi.
    If he has expressed his interest, then if all things go well with Nintendo, I would leave it to the dev of the game to port it in the most optimum manner with the most intended purpose.
    To me, seeing as how he has continued expressing his interest in porting it to the platform, the primary likelihood of the port depends on the condition of the agreement between all sides for cross play as he stated.
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