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    Player
    Campi's Avatar
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    Campi Nitsu
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    Shiva
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kietsu View Post
    NIN has three positionals: Armour Crush (flank), Aeolian Edge (rear), and Trick Attack (rear). Dragoon has four, while Monk has six.
    Your ping may be too high for the Raiton Ninjutsu to be worth using, but it shouldn't keep you from playing the class, especially if you're not interested in playing it especially well.
    NIN has 4
    Armour Crush (flank), Aeolian Edge (rear), and Trick Attack (rear) and Sneak Attack (front)
    And you use your positionals more often, than a drg
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Campi View Post
    NIN has 4
    Armour Crush (flank), Aeolian Edge (rear), and Trick Attack (rear) and Sneak Attack (front)
    And you use your positionals more often, than a drg
    I agree.
    But be honest: How often do you use SA?
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    Kietsu's Avatar
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    Kyett Corbeau
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    Coeurl
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Campi View Post
    NIN has 4
    Armour Crush (flank), Aeolian Edge (rear), and Trick Attack (rear) and Sneak Attack (front)
    And you use your positionals more often, than a drg
    I left Sneak Attack out because as much fun as it is to land sneak attack crits for thousands and thousands of damage, it doesn't get much use in serious play.
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    O wow so nin has 4?, and monk has 6?!!? Welp, at this point i might as well wait for the new class for upcoming expansion. I never knew .5-1 second delay can be this annoying.

    I guess monk is out then.
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    FyrmurlFloerasksyn's Avatar
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    Roegadyn Masterrace
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    Tonberry
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    O wow so nin has 4?, and monk has 6?!!? Welp, at this point i might as well wait for the new class for upcoming expansion. I never knew .5-1 second delay can be this annoying.

    I guess monk is out then.
    The ninja positionals really arent as bad as you are thinking. You are mostly going to be at the rear anyway (except for when you need to use armour crush)
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    Claymore022's Avatar
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    Claymore Morqlae
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 80
    I don't understand why the positionals matter if you don't care about your dps. Just play which ever one looks a feels good to play. The only thing you miss out on by not hitting a positional is damage ( which you don't care for anyway). All dps classes are mind numbingly easy to play in any content where damage doesn't matter. But as soon as you step into something that does matter, dps become the most difficult. And it's almost the exact opposite for tanks and healers imo since they still have responsibility when damage doesn't matter
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    Last edited by Claymore022; 10-23-2016 at 12:57 PM.

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    Nutz's Avatar
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    Monkey Nutz
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    From my experience long pings aren't so bad on positionals as they are on combos. This has been super painful for me on MNK when I play from my work computer. Frequently the GCD would completely expire before my client got confirmation back from the server that I did indeed land that previous attack and am now in a new form, adding at least .1-.2 seconds to every attack round because my ping simply couldn't keep up with the GCD..

    As an aside, businesses really get screwed with ISPs and other utilities in the US. That terrible internet connection costs like $80/ month for a business, but $20 for a residence, as it's the lowest offering they even have for residential (not the lowest for business class though -- they go all the way down to 2Mb/s). For $20 less at home I get about a ~50ms ping and 300Mb/s. I really only installed XIV on my work PC to craft/gather and even that's painful.
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    Shamox's Avatar
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    Eagle Master
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Positioning become a habit with time, so you shouldn't worry about it.

    But yeah, ninja with lag can be unpleasant.
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    Valous Voakes
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    playing nin on that kind of ping sure if your not doing anything serious. I mean the mudra clipping will be awful you press one then thinking the server didn't pick up your press do it again then going off twice screwing up your ninjutsu altogether. The normal combos themselves will probably be alright, not great but passable. I would be more worried about mudras at that ping and if you can't get them going right with high ping you would be pretty screwed in terms of dps.

    Unrelated Topic -

    Ilan what bow are you using in your character card?
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    FyrmurlFloerasksyn's Avatar
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    Roegadyn Masterrace
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    Tonberry
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yurihyuga View Post
    playing nin on that kind of ping sure if your not doing anything serious. I mean the mudra clipping will be awful you press one then thinking the server didn't pick up your press do it again then going off twice screwing up your ninjutsu altogether. The normal combos themselves will probably be alright, not great but passable. I would be more worried about mudras at that ping and if you can't get them going right with high ping you would be pretty screwed in terms of dps.

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    Ilan what bow are you using in your character card?
    I've done savage/ex primals with 160-200 ping before and experienced pretty much no troubles with latency reducing vpn.
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