Thread: Please change 2.1 - 2.55 story and don't add a level potion or let people skip story

Originally Posted by KaitlanKela

If the story is as underappreciated as you guys say (and I'm not arguing that point, I know plenty people who think the MSQ's cutscenes are tedious and don't watch them), then what will happen if we make MSQ optional? People won't play it.

Why is that bad?

Because like 90% of casual content in the game is unlocked through the MSQ. So now we have new players NOT unlocking these instances, and as older players attrition or lapse sub in between patches, what do the queues look like for 90% of content? It now takes a prohibitive amount of time to get a group. So now even people INTERESTED in the MSQ don't play it because it's to hard to actually get into content. Roulettes (primary source of endgame currency and gear) don't get run because level 50 and 60 content is dead.

Are people going to continue playing for the other 10% of casual content, like PotD? No. It's not a healthy gaming environment. Most of the casual content should be "required" in some way to unlock in order to keep a critical mass of players in the queues and keep content alive.

You're wrong. If all gating behind main story quests was removed, duty roulette would remain the same. People will still click the buttons to enter duty roulette to get their end game currency, get queued in with other people looking to get end game currency, and earn end game currency at the same rate. All it takes is 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 DPS clicking those buttons, or however many players are required for an instance.

And if main story quests was removed, it does not mean in any way that the "first timer" bonus would have to be removed. First timers themselves would probably want to run dungeons for the first time in order to grab the bonus tokens, or they would be forced to by the duty roulette system if they have access to those dungeons and meet the gear level requirement.

Anyway, don't like this thread, goodbye. Too much poor analyses by people who for some reason think everyone should be forced to do fetch quests.

Originally Posted by Terribad

People play MMOs for variety of reasons, story is not always the reason.

Mr/ms Obvious here, the point you are missing, a lot... is that this game is based ON a story, it's odd that you would pick up a story based game and dislike the PRIMARY attraction for it.

Like playing a fighting game for the story, and disliking the actual Competition (the main attraction to a fighting game...)

Playing a puzzle game but having a step by step guide sitting right beside you.

Playing tennis but paying someone to play it for you.

Going to a gym but just sitting on the bench the entire time talking to people working out.

These are all things you CAN do, but you'll be questioned about your goals.

Originally Posted by Terribad

People play MMOs for variety of reasons, story is not always the reason.

You complain others don't want to want to argue and you don't even read what I write. I made it short for a reason, just so it's easy to understand.

I know not everyone wants to enjoy the story. But even if you don't enjoy the story, there is 1-2 weeks of content that you can enjoy APART from the story before you reach 3.0. When 4.0 hits you'll have maybe 2-3 weeks of content APART from the story to experience. Why should people get to skip years of development on content that is still good and active thanks to level sync and roulettes? If they let people skip it, the game becomes so much smaller for new people that it will effect the game in the long run.

Originally Posted by Zojha

Stop right there!
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The level 50 content is alive because of the roulette, the roulette is unlocked when people have other people from roulette help them clear it the first time.

If you remove the MSQ requirement for most dungeons and they never get unlocked, critical mass isn't maintained and the content dies.

Now you suggest an alternative unlock quest, that's all well and good, fine. However 1) that requires development and people were opposed to condensing the MSQ because that requires development but at this point it's really the same and 2) some contents have situational context only. Snowcloak? No reason to go besides the Iceheart plot arc. Nobody would encourage just adventurers going to explore those caves otherwise. It's hardly the only one. What about MSQ based trials, like the Steps of Faith. Oh, you wanna cross this bridge, well there's a Dragon. LOL wat? Doesn't make any sense

Originally Posted by MikeWW

You're wrong.

I'm not saying people who have it unlocked wouldn't run it.

I'm saying that far less NEW PLAYERS would unlock the content. And we all know that old players don't stick around forever, or they let their sub lapse between patches. When there aren't enough people who have to content/roulettes unlocked for new people interested in the content to run it to actually get in, it dies because people aren't going to wait around.

Originally Posted by Terribad

All MMOs are story based and are based on a story, they all developed content around story. None force you, also on the box/website/wikipedia/etc it doesn't say "this is a story driven MMO" it just says it's a MMO. I can't say this enough, making a story optional doesn't hinder any one else's game.

Yea, you aren't getting the point, so this is honestly a waste of time. I'll leave you to your mess.